Has Elizabeth Warren let you down? (Boston, Whitman: careers, medicine, job)

[Partial Observer]

Originally Posted by GeePee

She whines a lot. She hates Trump. and is a D

Sadly thats enough these days in Massachusetts

Meanwhile, Diehl showed some real political chops by switching parties and saying nice things about Trump. He also supported the local economy by sticking flyers under windshield wipers and leaving municipal employees to clean up the litter. I was sorely disappointed when he lost.

[redplum33]

Originally Posted by cb2008

This drumbeat against Warren is irrational and anti-woman.

If you need to go there, you've already lost the argument.

[Cassy Fae]

Originally Posted by cb2008

I am shocked at how much we let men get away with when they run for office, or even if office. That Trump could be elected President of the US is a shock that we have still not recovered from.

This drumbeat against Warren is irrational and anti-woman. Women have voices that are higher pitched. You just have to start getting used to it because they are here to stay in public life. Listen to what they say instead of how they are saying it. And observe what they accomplish rather than what they claim. Listen to what their values are, whether it is something that sits well for you.

People voted for Trump INSPITE of the horrible thingds that came out of his mouth and the values he espoused.

100% correct. Women are held to a higher standard in every facet of life. Nobody would give a fig if Trump and company listed Native on a form. Nobody gave a fig that he was selling fake university forms for that matter.

With that said- while I would prefer her any day over Cheeto, or really anyone over cheeto, she's getting a taste of her own medicine. She promoted quite a bit of the false, idiotic, sexist narrative against Hillary and now she's getting some of that.

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by redplum33

If you need to go there, you've already lost the argument.

Yep, hilarious but also pathetic. The level of dialogue in this country is unreal.

[Cassy Fae]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

Yep, hilarious but also pathetic. The level of dialogue in this country is unreal.

To be unaware of the impact of sexism in this country is the height of privilege. It shouldn’t, but it shocks me.

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by Cassy Fae

To be unaware of the impact of sexism in this country is the height of privilege. It shouldn’t, but it shocks me.

It shouldn't shock me to read such asinine bs on city data anymore, but it does.

[metalmancpa]

Originally Posted by GeoffD

What do you mean by “spirit”?

I think she’s a horrible public speaker. Remember Marjorie Clapprood in the Massachusetts House in the 1980s? That shrill nasal “Mister Speaker” she’d use as a preamble to anything she said on the floor. It hurts my ears.

The political damage from Pocahontas won’t ever go away. The perfect Angry White Man lever. A smart woman who played a race card to her advantage. It doesn’t matter whether it was actually an advantage or not. It’s the perception and the Angry White Man belief that minorities get an unfair advantage due to affirmative action. Personally, I figure it’s just an honest mistake based on her family lore and she got no benefit from it. She had distant Indian blood like lots of old Oklahoma families. It’s not like she ever did the genealogy research to see how many generations ago that was.

Spirit may be a bad word, but it's akin to listening to her speak and as you say, she's horrible at it. She hurts your ears, she hurts my eyes.

[GeePee]

Originally Posted by metalmancpa

Spirit may be a bad word, but it's akin to listening to her speak and as you say, she's horrible at it. She hurts your ears, she hurts my eyes.

Maybe you just hate women????
see what I did there?
In all seriousness. She has a screechy whiny voice, and I can't stand it when she speaks. I also hate when Baker speaks.

Guess I just hate Humans?

[Cassy Fae]

Originally Posted by GeePee

Maybe you just hate women????
see what I did there?
In all seriousness. She has a screechy whiny voice, and I can't stand it when she speaks. I also hate when Baker speaks.

Guess I just hate Humans?

I don’t care for Warren’s voice either, but I do think there is sexism involved and how we view women’s voices. With that said, trump sounds like he is wearing nose plugs and has his head stuffed into a plastic bag when he is speaking. So it does go both ways even if the consequences do not.

[GeePee]

Originally Posted by Cassy Fae

I don’t care for Warren’s voice either, but I do think there is sexism involved and how we view women’s voices. With that said, trump sounds like he is wearing nose plugs and has his head stuffed into a plastic bag when he is speaking. So it does go both ways even if the consequences do not.

Look. I'm not a fan of trumps voice either. I liked how Obama spoke, wasn't a huge fan of a lot of his policy. Hillary was a well spoken woman, But even less relatable to me than EW.

Have you ever thought that maybe people just don't like her as a person? I hated Deval Patrick, and the lazy thing to do is to say because he is black?

Lets look at the Boston police commissioner William Gross, a black man who I think is fabulously spoken, and very relatable. William Evans who he replaced was a very weird speaker, Not a bad commissioner.

Ayanna Pressley just took the house, She is a black woman who I think is amazing. speaks well. represents a lot of my interests.


Let's not be lazy and accuse