Coronavirus in Massachusetts (Boston, Lowell, Harvard: medicine, infant, specialist)

[PamelaIamela]

Originally Posted by brightdoglover

There is no issue with a person standing on their deck or backyard even if having COVID. Yes, I read what someone said about the wind blowing. Not an issue. Misinformation. Talk about only caring about themselves...

I don't have a dog in this spat, but in the world of science you really can't assume too much until you test hypotheses.
And retest them.
We still do not know enough about this particular viral infection, it's behavior, longevity and spread, to declare 'misinformation' with such confidence.

I wear a pro mask whenever I go truly public now.
If I were infected I would wear a surgical even on my balcony if I had close-in neighbors.

And both actions may yet prove to be insufficient.

[PamelaIamela]

Originally Posted by charolastra00

Our best hope is to dramatically ramp up tracing and testing, both active virus and antibodies. The Partners in Health contact tracing model is a great step for our state and I hope all states develop their own robust systems because it will be useless if it's not extensive. It's telling that they anticipate 1000+ tracers starting by the end of this month (AFTER our peak) for an undisclosed amount of time. Larger states would need greater numbers of people to do this work.

I also foresee long term mask wearing, temperature checks at work/stores/travel, more willingness to allow work from home either full time or staggered part time to reduce density in workplaces, and limited large gatherings. Restaurants may reopen, but with social distancing regulations (i.e. no more standing room only bars or crowded restaurants for awhile). Museums, malls, etc all will have temp checks and require masks.

If we get this under control by early June, testing supplies can be ramped up and stockpiled so we're not always behind the curve as we are now. Same with serology tests.

Now HERE is someone who gets it.

Except for the 'long term no standing room bars'.

ETA: Hey.. that uncrowded bar thing may actually be a good idea, now that I think about it..

[wror]

Originally Posted by timberline742

You just happened to miss where he said a group of non white medical professionals were planning on committing white genocide?

I am a fair person with fair value judgements with an exceptional ability to avoid social pressure to have and hold views and make choices based on the prevailing majority viewpoints. Also, metaphysically,a Hypnotist has said i am one of the few people that can not be hypnotized. Back to the thread topic.

The Spring Breaker i mentioned is white. The majority of Spring Breakers were white.
If i was racist, i would likely not be criticizing them but have.

As i mention, in my opinion and speculating, with a majority older White population in Massachusetts, i project a hypothesis there may be an element of racism in the Massachusetts Crisis Standards of Care Advisory Committee by favoring Massachusetts young population over Massachusetts older population.

It is at least age discrimination with the edict of the Massachusetts Crisis Standards of Care Advisory

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by wror

It is at least age discrimination with the edict of the Massachusetts Crisis Standards of Care Advisory

Was it discrimination when the titanic went down and they got off women and children? It is just sanity. If your old your more likely to die if you recover from Covid so it is utterly pointless to waste resources the older you are.

Our best hope is to dramatically ramp up tracing and testing, both active virus and antibodies.

The model we have at the moment is not sustainable. It is likely way more people have coronavirus than know it and masks and social distancing is simply not effective. Drugs that cut the death rate and plasma transplants are the only way out of this.

[wror]

Originally Posted by MassVt

Whatever state you infected with your racist views---stay there.

My state,an older person of 60 + can still go into hospital and not have their health care compromised by being profiled by their age bracket. Like in Massachusetts.
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[mdovell]

Originally Posted by btownboss4

Looking at the county distribution it’s clear the NY situation is hurting Massachusetts.

Hampden and Berkshire county are 2 of the 3 highest concentrations in the state.

Hampden doesn't border NY. Franklin actually has the highest amount per capita, especially in Greenfield. Pittsfield is also pretty high.

[jayrandom]

Originally Posted by wror

I am a fair person with fair value judgements with an exceptional ability to avoid social pressure to have and hold views and make choices based on the prevailing majority viewpoints. Also, metaphysically,a Hypnotist has said i am one of the few people that can not be hypnotized. Back to the thread topic.

The Spring Breaker i mentioned is white. The majority of Spring Breakers were white.
If i was racist, i would likely not be criticizing them but have.

As i mention, in my opinion and speculating, with a majority older White population in Massachusetts, i project a hypothesis there may be an element of racism in the Massachusetts Crisis Standards of Care Advisory Committee by favoring Massachusetts young population over Massachusetts older population.

It is at least age discrimination with the edict of the Massachusetts Crisis Standards of Care Advisory

This is like the hypothetical question of who do you save from a burning building, or from a sinking ship. Once you've resigned yourself to someone dying the choice is always going to be somber. The whole point of the social distancing exercise was to prevent that choice from having to be made.

If it does need to be made, I can't think of a better threshold than age. I know my grandfather, who is getting really old but has always been healthy, is at this point in his life most worried about outliving some of his seven children. He's had an entire lifetime to deal with his own mortality, but had always assumed he wouldn't have to deal with his kids mortality. I know I feel the same way. I am prepared for my grandfather, my parents, and even a little for myself, but am not for my kids.

For someone who seems attuned to old-fashioned values, I can't think of any values more old-fashioned than sacrificing for your children. Of course, I hope it doesn't come to that.

[Boston Shudra]

Originally Posted by PamelaIamela

YES, it IS to protect the wearer.

Masks are good for both.

[OutdoorLover]

Originally Posted by iAMtheVVALRUS

Masks are good for both.

Yes, virus particles can both enter and leave the body through nostrils and mouth. Masks provide a two-way barrier.

[btownboss4]

Originally Posted by mdovell

Hampden doesn't border NY. Franklin actually has the highest amount per capita, especially in Greenfield. Pittsfield is also pretty high.

Hampden has relatively high per capita connections to Fairfield/New Haven Counties and New York City compared to Essex or Middlesex.

CT in really clear that it’s an extension on the NYC outbreak. Fairfield has about 1/2 the state’s cases.