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Old 06-22-2020, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts & Hilton Head, SC
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It’s socioeconomic segregation. Not racial segregation. I live in a socioeconomically mixed town. I can’t think of any of those in metro Boston. They used to exist. The scarcity of commutable housing has killed off the concept of a working class starter home anywhere that isn’t sketchy.
There aren’t many, that’s true.
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Old 06-22-2020, 03:27 PM
 
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It’s socioeconomic segregation. Not racial segregation. I live in a socioeconomically mixed town. I can’t think of any of those in metro Boston. They used to exist. The scarcity of commutable housing has killed off the concept of a working class starter home anywhere that isn’t sketchy.
Class is a factor for sure but class and race aren't so easily disentangled.

Brookline, Newton and Wellesley had more of a mix than they have now but many towns in Metro Boston retain a socioeconomic mix. Malden, Dedham, Watertown, Waltham and Quincy come to mind. Arlington and Needham have traded middle class for upper middle wholesale but that's unusual. Even Newton and Belmont-- even though they're expensive, there's no way people living in two family houses in Waverly or Nonantum are at the same socioeconomic level as on Belmont Hill or West Newton Hill.
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Old 06-22-2020, 04:44 PM
 
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On the contrary, it's an awesome essay. Why do all these nice affluent towns like Southborough remain so overwhelmingly white decade after decade? The way things are run preserves the whiteness quite effectively-- large lot zoning, single-family residence-only zoning, resistance to rentals of any kind, historic preservation practices, lack of any county or regional planning with enforcement teeth, real estate practices known as steering ... And from reading forums like this year after year you see what the average Jane and Joe have to say about the cities and towns that do have nonwhite pluralities or majorities--more often than not, a smug putdown of some kind. What is it like to grow up in an affluent white town like that if you're black? These authors are telling us their experience. Time to reflect on white fragility, acknowledge the criticisms and listen up.
Please just STOP. One of the girls (after graduating one of the best high schools in the state) is now in a doctorate program at Boston College. She seems to have succeeded quite fine despite the trauma and inequality she faced growing up in Southborough, and certainly far better than the average white OR black kid in Massachusetts never mind the USA. Pity pity pity, cry me a river. Nothing but an spoiled little brat seeking attention, in my eyes anyway.
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Old 06-22-2020, 08:07 PM
 
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Please just STOP. One of the girls (after graduating one of the best high schools in the state) is now in a doctorate program at Boston College. She seems to have succeeded quite fine despite the trauma and inequality she faced growing up in Southborough, and certainly far better than the average white OR black kid in Massachusetts never mind the USA. Pity pity pity, cry me a river. Nothing but an spoiled little brat seeking attention, in my eyes anyway.
Your sneering and jeering speaks for itself.
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Old 06-22-2020, 08:11 PM
 
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You might not care, but that is the problem.
That some people see past race? That is a problem to you? Really???
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Old 06-22-2020, 08:21 PM
 
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Your sneering and jeering speaks for itself.
I thought I was being nice.
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Old 06-23-2020, 09:39 AM
 
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Class is a factor for sure but class and race aren't so easily disentangled.
They aren't and they are. It really depends on what you are talking about.
Asians are richer than whites on average, and Indians in particular are almost twice as rich as Whites. Nigerian-Americans have similar household income as British-Americans because they immigrate highly educated.

On the other end if you are trapped in the vicious cycle of poverty (as many minorities living in the US for generations are)...brace yourself.

I don't think a Nigerian-American that moved to the US 20 years ago faces considerably less racism on a day to day basis than someone that is the descendant of enslaved people, yet one has way more chances of getting ahead in life.
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Old 07-02-2020, 05:45 PM
 
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randolph is a dump and you only need to see the demographics to see why lol
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Old 07-02-2020, 07:11 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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randolph is a dump and you only need to see the demographics to see why lol
Care to elaborate? On Rutland, or Randolph, or demographics?
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Old 07-03-2020, 09:09 AM
 
Location: East Coast
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randolph is a dump and you only need to see the demographics to see why lol
Wow. At least most people try to hide their racism or deny that they are racist. Something to see it just out and proud like this. But I guess that's where we are these days. We have people who don't think racism is a bad thing.
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