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Old 01-21-2021, 02:20 PM
 
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Similar but it looks way better than Quincy. It includes high-end suburban office space, a medical center fr the Baltimore Rvanes, bars, and retail.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3843...7i16384!8i8192
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Rita's+Italian+Ice+%26+Frozen+Custard/@39.3846683,-76.6881978,3a,75.5y,67.34h,83.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPStwHbuMWrTTxB1AXZltdQ!2e0!7i1 6384!8i8192!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x89c810871ed11563:0xa3 693ce043403f6b!2sQuarry+Lake+Dr,+Pikesville,+MD!3b 1!8m2!3d39.3842275!4d-76.6907339!3m4!1s0x89c8108764418baf:0x406e096e3291 16ea!8m2!3d39.384656!4d-76.688022

It is just a more cohesive and better land-scaped version which makes sense because it's a suburban area not a City like Quincy. https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3853...7i16384!8i8192

But note that Quincy definitely has the affordability that we need more of in Boston! Especially in terms of rentals.

More suburban areas in MA need Quarry Lakes-especially MetroWest. Because there too often clustered into urban municipalities where they're more poorly done, rushed and oversized IMO. Even Dedham executes poorly not classy and well-done. I do think it perpetuates a stigma.

That's what I meant. If they took half the area they used for the golf course and filled it with housing and other stuff actually in demand, could have been an actual cohesive nice neighborhood. And while Quincy as a city is more urban, that side tucked into the Blue Hills I say fits a more suburban mold. But yes, Quincy (like much of inside 128) does more than its share in the affordable housing department. I do agree that some of the stuff going up in Dedham is hideous, and hurting the feel of the town. While certainly needed, there are areas much better suited. Another example on the north side of Boston, is Anderson in Woburn. TONS of empty/underutilized land around there, in proximity to the Commuter Rail/Bus/Amtrak that would be perfect for this kind of thing.
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Old 01-21-2021, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Hyde Park, MA
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Other well-done examples of dense middle-class suburban housing

Garrison MD:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3960...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3967...7i13312!8i6656

affordable/lower income housing:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4644...7i13312!8i6656

Golf Courses are put in sensible areas: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4093...7i13312!8i6656

Still plenty low denisty metrowest/style nieghborhoods:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4176...7i13312!8i6656
This just makes me chuckle because meanwhile within the city of Boston 1.8 miles from Forest Hills we have this beauty (Olmstead Green):

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2872...7i16384!8i8192

Boston has no idea what to do with it's space. Development is always good but they seriously could've gone up a notch in terms of units. Olmstead Green should be by places that have Commuter Rail stops like Readville or Dedham. Instead you end up with higher density buildings next to a commuter rail stop in the suburbs (Legacy Place).

Quincy has done a pretty decent job with Marina Bay, although Boston satellite cities seem to have no idea how to properly position themselves:

This is okay -

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2979...7i16384!8i8192

But this in the middle of Quincy....we need more single family homes maybe in Kingston and Pembroke but BUILD UP in Quincy, Cambridge, Brookline, Revere, and outlying Boston neighborhoods.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2964...7i16384!8i8192

Weymouth has done okay though with their redevelopment of the airfield with A LOT of room to grow.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1574...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1585...7i13312!8i6656

Randolph and Canton as well share this beauty:

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1820...7i16384!8i8192

No where near a T stop. We need to do better in Mass.
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Old 01-21-2021, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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This just makes me chuckle because meanwhile within the city of Boston 1.8 miles from Forest Hills we have this beauty (Olmstead Green):

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2872...7i16384!8i8192

Boston has no idea what to do with it's space. Development is always good but they seriously could've gone up a notch in terms of units. Olmstead Green should be by places that have Commuter Rail stops like Readville or Dedham. Instead you end up with higher density buildings next to a commuter rail stop in the suburbs (Legacy Place).

Quincy has done a pretty decent job with Marina Bay, although Boston satellite cities seem to have no idea how to properly position themselves:

This is okay -

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2979...7i16384!8i8192

But this in the middle of Quincy....we need more single family homes maybe in Kingston and Pembroke but BUILD UP in Quincy, Cambridge, Brookline, Revere, and outlying Boston neighborhoods.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2964...7i16384!8i8192

Weymouth has done okay though with their redevelopment of the airfield with A LOT of room to grow.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1574...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2964...7i16384!8i8192

Randolph and Canton as well share this beauty:

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1820...7i16384!8i8192

No where near a T stop. We need to do better in Mass.
Olmsted Green and especially Harvard Commons are products of the Menino era. They were planned in the early 200s and began construction in late 2003. Theyre still not done.

Low density primarily single-family homes meant to "stabilize" the neighborhood by providing lower-middle-income and middle-income POC to buy homes in their neighborhood. It didn't really work out. Bland architecture, bad neighborhood, very expensive, no subway, no retail or public space whatsoever. If planned today it would have hundreds of more units. Maybe over a thousand more in total. No one really knew demand would be what it would be back in 01.

Quincy does well so I won't knock them

The Weymouth development is well done.

Randolph and Cantons looks cheap and poorly maintained but theyve got the right idea. It needs landscaping.
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Old 01-21-2021, 02:46 PM
 
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Looks great but it's totally urban, would look "heavy" in a suburban setting.

The one in Weymouth looks great for suburban metro Boston.
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Old 01-21-2021, 02:49 PM
 
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Randolph and Cantons looks cheap and poorly maintained but theyve got the right idea. It needs landscaping.
The green parts don't look great but if that comes with a cheaper price isn't necessarily that bad.
Also, a lawn full of weed is much more ecological than a perfect bright green lawn.
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Old 01-21-2021, 02:58 PM
 
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Weymouth has done okay though with their redevelopment of the airfield with A LOT of room to grow.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1574...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1585...7i13312!8i6656

Is that finally taking off? It looks promising, problem is I feel like that's been in the works forever with very minimal actually built.
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Old 01-21-2021, 03:07 PM
 
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This just makes me chuckle because meanwhile within the city of Boston 1.8 miles from Forest Hills we have this beauty (Olmstead Green):

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2872...7i16384!8i8192

Boston has no idea what to do with it's space. Development is always good but they seriously could've gone up a notch in terms of units. Olmstead Green should be by places that have Commuter Rail stops like Readville or Dedham. Instead you end up with higher density buildings next to a commuter rail stop in the suburbs (Legacy Place).

Quincy has done a pretty decent job with Marina Bay, although Boston satellite cities seem to have no idea how to properly position themselves:

This is okay -

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2979...7i16384!8i8192

But this in the middle of Quincy....we need more single family homes maybe in Kingston and Pembroke but BUILD UP in Quincy, Cambridge, Brookline, Revere, and outlying Boston neighborhoods.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2964...7i16384!8i8192

Weymouth has done okay though with their redevelopment of the airfield with A LOT of room to grow.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1574...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1585...7i13312!8i6656

Randolph and Canton as well share this beauty:

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1820...7i16384!8i8192

No where near a T stop. We need to do better in Mass.
The vast majority of Pembroke and Kingston is single family homes. The trouble is the higher the costs the fewer the buyers and high end buyers aren't exactly bouncing around. Moreover the less developed a place is the higher the cost is of bringing it up. Water lines, sewer lines, electrical, telecommunications all add up. Heck my folks couldn't get mail service for two years on the south shore until a given number of houses were on the street (it was rural route otherwise).

If we can build more along rail lines that could be a good help but the transit authorities are nearly gone.
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Old 01-21-2021, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Hyde Park, MA
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Is that finally taking off? It looks promising, problem is I feel like that's been in the works forever with very minimal actually built.
They have a ton of land to work with and yeah, seems like they've done the minimum with it. I was a bit dismayed seeing just how little they've actually done. Feels a lot bigger when you're actually there.

It's starting to show some signs of life though. Joggers, people walking their dogs, etc.
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Old 01-21-2021, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Hyde Park, MA
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The vast majority of Pembroke and Kingston is single family homes. The trouble is the higher the costs the fewer the buyers and high end buyers aren't exactly bouncing around. Moreover the less developed a place is the higher the cost is of bringing it up. Water lines, sewer lines, electrical, telecommunications all add up. Heck my folks couldn't get mail service for two years on the south shore until a given number of houses were on the street (it was rural route otherwise).

If we can build more along rail lines that could be a good help but the transit authorities are nearly gone.
Check this location out https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9776.../data=!3m1!1e3 and https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0145.../data=!3m1!1e3

The areas around Halifax and Kingston station are great examples. Given the economic development bill that Governor Baker just signed, these are towns I imagine will really see some changes.

Thankfully towns like Medfield were able to get zoning changed within the old voting format. They're going to develop the old state hospital with a mix of residential/commercial projects.

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The article - one of two on the Monday night warrant - barely garnered the two-thirds majority needed for a zoning change. A total of 651 voters supported the measure, while 295 opposed it - meaning 68.8 percent of those present approved.
Source: https://medfield.wickedlocal.com/new...ospital-zoning

Google Maps isn't showing it but there are some newer homes built on Sunset Way that are akin to Olmstead Green as well.

Location: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Me...!4d-71.3313323
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Old 01-21-2021, 06:45 PM
 
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https://www.redfin.com/MA/Sudbury/6-.../home/11681360

560k for this tiny ranch on "Easy Street" in Sudbury. It seems really tiny to me, dunno if this is going to attract that much interest. Plus it's almost in Marlborough.
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