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Old 11-17-2021, 01:49 AM
 
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Below is a list of every city in Massachusetts. I realize that there is some overlap and that there are some towns bigger than some of these cities. To be consistent, I'm only looking at cities. Here is my question:

If you had a family, which of these cities would you:
1. Feel comfortable and safe living in?
2. Send your kids to PUBLIC schools?


If I were a single male, I'd have no problem living ANY of these cities. But I have a wife and a child on the way, so I might be reluctant to send my kids to Lawrence or Boston public schools.

The cities in BOLD are the cities where I'd be more than happy to live with my wife and daughter and have her attend public schools:


Boston
Worcester
Springfield
Cambridge
Lowell

Brockton
Quincy
Lynn
New Bedford
Fall River
Lawrence
Newton
Somerville
Framingham
Haverhill
Malden
Waltham
Revere
Medford
Taunton †
Weymouth

Chicopee
Peabody
Methuen
Everett
Barnstable
Attleboro
Salem
Pittsfield †
Leominster
Beverly
Fitchburg
Marlborough
Woburn
Westfield

Chelsea
Amherst
Braintree

Holyoke
Watertown
Randolph
Franklin
North Attleborough
Melrose
Gloucester
Northampton
West Springfield
Bridgewater
Gardner
Winthrop
Newburyport

Greenfield
Southbridge
Amesbury
East Longmeadow
Easthampton
North Adams
Palmer
Peabody
Quincy
Randolph
Revere
Somerville
Southbridge
Waltham
Watertown
West Springfield City
Westfield
Weymouth
Winthrop
Woburn


As you can see, I'd be more than happy to settle down in almost every city in the state, but there are a few that have school and safety issues that I'd be concerned about having a wife and young daughter. What would you guys pick?
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Old 11-17-2021, 06:33 AM
 
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out of your list I pick Cambridge

2nd Winchester

3rd Newton

Nice as heck towns right there
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Old 11-17-2021, 07:21 AM
 
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out of your list I pick Cambridge

2nd Winchester

3rd Newton

Nice as heck towns right there
Winchester is town meeting and selectmen. It’s not one of the New England-style “city” governments with a mayor and city council.

I suppose it’s arbitrary but I’d pick a lower population bound for the list. 50,000? 75,000? That way, you’re not including smaller towns that have opted for mayor and city council as their form of government.

Of the top-10 by population, I guess a Boston exam school assuming you’re admitted and Cambridge. Newton is #11. Public schools in Worcester, Springfield, New Bedford, Fall River, Brockton, Lowell? Absolutely not.
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Old 11-17-2021, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Needham, MA
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I don't understand the point of this thread. A municipality being termed a "city" is just an indication of the system of government used there. Brookline, a town, is far more urban and dense than many places on your list. I guess I'm just not entirely sure what a place being a "city" has anything to do with choosing a place to live. Do you really like having a mayor??
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Old 11-17-2021, 08:36 AM
 
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First time I see Worcester and Newton in a list together. You specifically mention public schools....do you think they are comparable
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Old 11-17-2021, 08:39 AM
 
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Winchester is town meeting and selectmen. It’s not one of the New England-style “city” governments with a mayor and city council.

I suppose it’s arbitrary but I’d pick a lower population bound for the list. 50,000? 75,000? That way, you’re not including smaller towns that have opted for mayor and city council as their form of government.

Of the top-10 by population, I guess a Boston exam school assuming you’re admitted and Cambridge. Newton is #11. Public schools in Worcester, Springfield, New Bedford, Fall River, Brockton, Lowell? Absolutely not.
Springfield, New Bedford, Fall River and Brockton are not bolded in his list so he wouldn't send his kids there...but Worcester, Lowell are. Also plenty of other cities have at a minimum mediocre public schools, like Gardner, Fitchburg and many more.
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Old 11-17-2021, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts & Hilton Head, SC
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Franklin is a town, not a city. They have some aspects of a city government. I think a few on this list are like that.
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Old 11-17-2021, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I wouldn’t live in Fitchburg or Southbridge with a family, no.
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Old 11-17-2021, 09:03 AM
 
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Springfield, New Bedford, Fall River and Brockton are not bolded in his list so he wouldn't send his kids there...but Worcester, Lowell are. Also plenty of other cities have at a minimum mediocre public schools, like Gardner, Fitchburg and many more.
I guess I failed to communicate my point. Outside of New England, “city” has some implications of density and population. Thus, my suggestion of adding a minimum population requirement. Gardner isn’t a city in any kind of density and population context. It’s a town.

The World Atlas defines it as:
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A city is a large urban area with a greater geographical area, higher population, and population density, and is more developed than a town.
So Lowell is a city. Chelmsford is a town. Worcester is a city. Shrewsbury is a town. Springfield is a city. Longmeadow is a town.

Within the context of Boston as a city, Newton is probably a town despite the large population and some dense areas. I think you could argue that either way. Cambridge is certainly dense enough to be considered a city.
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Old 11-17-2021, 09:11 AM
 
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I guess I failed to communicate my point. Outside of New England, “city” has some implications of density and population. Thus, my suggestion of adding a minimum population requirement. Gardner isn’t a city in any kind of density and population context. It’s a town.

The World Atlas defines it as:


So Lowell is a city. Chelmsford is a town. Worcester is a city. Shrewsbury is a town. Springfield is a city. Longmeadow is a town.

Within the context of Boston as a city, Newton is probably a town despite the large population and some dense areas. I think you could argue that either way. Cambridge is certainly dense enough to be considered a city.
No you didn't fail, I just wrongly quoted all of your message. I was referring exclusively to your last sentence about public schools.

I agree with the rest, doesn't make sense. I mean Palmer is on that list, that's barely a town.
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