Libertarian minded towns in MA

[litlux]

Originally Posted by dognh

Get it, you need to "respect" their differences and hopefully they'll "tolerate" yours. Typical liberal fascism speak.

The only hope you have is to find a sparsely populated town maybe something out in Berkshire county -- where at least the locals will leave you alone.

Otherwise, I'd find another state.

Please, don't send them to us. We have a great deal of tolerance but not for the intolerant.

Berkshire Native

[dognh]

Originally Posted by litlux

Please, don't send them to us. We have a great deal of tolerance but not for the intolerant.

Berkshire Native

So, you are intolerant? Exactly what I said.

To the original poster. Better to avoid Mass altogether. Just read any post from a "tolerant" Lib and you'll see why. They are only tolerant of people that agree with them i.e. they are the most intolerant people of all.

[jayrandom]

Originally Posted by litlux

Please, don't send them to us. We have a great deal of tolerance but not for the intolerant.

Berkshire Native

How exactly are libertarian ideals intolerant? How has the OP given indication he or she is so intolerant as for you to want to discourage him or her from moving to your county? If you stretch your ideas of intolerance to include those who think that small government works better than big government, how can any idea you disagree with avoid being considered intolerant and earn your intolerance?

[Brave Stranger]

Originally Posted by jayrandom

How exactly are libertarian ideals intolerant? How has the OP given indication he or she is so intolerant as for you to want to discourage him or her from moving to your county? If you stretch your ideas of intolerance to include those who think that small government works better than big government, how can any idea you disagree with avoid being considered intolerant and earn your intolerance?

See........that's the point. They want to shut down all debate. Everything in American culture keeps moving left so that even a moderate, liberal conservative like GWB seems like a right-winger.

[holden125]

Originally Posted by Brave Stranger

See........that's the point. They want to shut down all debate. Everything in American culture keeps moving left so that even a moderate, liberal conservative like GWB seems like a right-winger.

OK, you know you're off the fringe when you DON'T think GWB is a right-winger. The guy was the most-right wing President we had in at least 75 or 80 years. I don't know what a "liberal conservative" is but GWB is not a "moderate" anything. He was, I agree, not even close to a libertarian.

And this whole "woe is me, I'm a conservative, the only type of oppressed person left in the world" act is very tired. You people are so sensitive and so on the lookout for perceived slights to exploit that you're making a huge thing out of nothing. You start to sound like the PC crowd you claim to detest so much.

The quote was "I think you should just move to a town you like and respect other people's differences as hopefully, they will tolerate yours." I didn't read this as being two dramatically different things. It could very easily mean that in an ideal situtation the OP would be tolerant of people's differing views out of respect, and the other people would do the exact same thing in return. You've set this up as some nefarious Orwellian scheme but it's an internet message board; not everyone is parsing every word they write to make sure both sides are treated in an equivalent way. I don't know why you'd want such a thing anyway, sounds kinda liberal.

Jay-I hear you on the "tolerant" thing because Meltinjohn didn't say anything intolerant. But there's a semantic twisting of the word "tolerant" that often comes from people on the right. Liberals, the story goes, are supposed to be "tolerant," but being "tolerant" does not require accepting someone's idea with which you don't agree. I don't ask any of you to accept my ideas unless I somehow manage to persuade you, which I doubt will happen any time soon.

It's extremely disingenous to show up on a board saying all sorts of negative things about the "liberals" and the "left" and then start whining about how oppressed you are when they express that they don't agree with you. I, for one, am not shutting down all debate. I've always been more than happy to debate the issues.

[Brave Stranger]

Originally Posted by holden125

OK, you know you're off the fringe when you DON'T think GWB is a right-winger. The guy was the most-right wing President we had in at least 75 or 80 years. I don't know what a "liberal conservative" is but GWB is not a "moderate" anything. He was, I agree, not even close to a libertarian.

And this whole "woe is me, I'm a conservative, the only type of oppressed person left in the world" act is very tired. You people are so sensitive and so on the lookout for perceived slights to exploit that you're making a huge thing out of nothing. You start to sound like the PC crowd you claim to detest so much.

The quote was "I think you should just move to a town you like and respect other people's differences as hopefully, they will tolerate yours." I didn't read this as being two dramatically different things. It could very easily mean that in an ideal situtation the OP would be tolerant of people's differing views out of respect, and the other people would do the exact same thing in return. You've set this up as some nefarious Orwellian scheme but it's an internet message board; not everyone is parsing every word they write to make sure both sides are treated in an equivalent way. I don't know why you'd want such a thing anyway, sounds kinda liberal.

Jay-I hear you on the "tolerant" thing because Meltinjohn didn't say anything intolerant. But there's a semantic twisting of the word "tolerant" that often comes from people on the right. Liberals, the story goes, are supposed to be "tolerant," but being "tolerant" does not require accepting someone's idea with which you don't agree. I don't ask any of you to accept my ideas unless I somehow manage to persuade you, which I doubt will happen any time soon.

It's extremely disingenous to show up on a board saying all sorts of negative things about the "liberals" and the "left" and then start whining about how oppressed you are when they express that they don't agree with you. I, for one, am not shutting down all debate. I've always been more than happy to debate the issues.

GWB was a liberal rebublican. He was for OPEN BORDERS. Unlimited legal immigration. He was a liberal utopian who thought by waging war in the Middle East he could "give" them democracy. If that's not a liberal idea I don't know what is. He SPENT like a liberal on the budget.....he enacted a drug benifit that was the biggest expansion of government since LBJ. Should I go on ? You don't have a clue !

[CaseyB]

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