Ppl from Massachusetts are incredibly rude (Boston: how much, construction, universities)

[rudemsshole]

The GMAC Insurance National Driver's Test found that nearly 20 million Americans, or about 1 in 10 drivers, would fail a state driver's test if they had to take one today. GMAC Insurance is part of General Motors' finance subsidiary, GMAC.
More than 5,000 licensed drivers between the ages of 16 and 65 were administered a 20-question written test designed to measure basic knowledge about traffic laws and safety. They were also surveyed about their general driving habits.
Drivers in the Northeast and mid-Atlantic states did worst. Twenty percent of test-takers failed there.
The state of Rhode Island leads the nation in driver cluelessness, according to the survey. The average test score there was 77, just eight points above a failing grade.
Those in neighboring Massachusetts were second worst and New Jersey, third worst.

Nation -- 82.7
1. Oregon -- 89.4
2. Washington -- 88.4
3. Iowa -- 87.7
4. Idaho -- 87.5
5. Wyoming -- 87.4
6. Vermont -- 86.6
7. Nebraska -- 86.5
8. Wisconsin -- 86.3
9. Montana -- 86.2
10. West Virginia -- 86.2
11. Minnesota -- 86.1
12. North Dakota -- 85.6
13. North Carolina -- 85.2
14. Indiana -- 85.1
15. Alabama -- 84.7
15. Virginia -- 84.7
15. Nevada -- 84.7
16 Missouri -- 84.7
19. Ohio -- 84.3
19. South Dakota -- 84.3
21. Colorado -- 84.2
22. Kansas -- 84.0
23. Michigan -- 83.8
24. New Hampshire -- 83.7
25. Tennessee -- 83.4
26. Maine -- 83.2
27. Arkansas -- 83.1
27. South Carolina -- 83.1
29. Georgia -- 82.9
29. New Mexico -- 82.9
31. Oklahoma -- 82.8
32. Texas -- 82.7
33. Utah -- 82.6
33. Arizona -- 82.6
35. Mississippi -- 82.5
35. Delaware -- 82.5
35. Kentucky -- 82.5
38. Pennsylvania -- 82.1
39. Louisiana -- 81.7
40. Illinois -- 81.6
41. Florida -- 81.1
42. Connecticut -- 80.9
43. California -- 80.4
44. Maryland -- 79.8
44. Washington, D.C, -- 79.8
44. New York -- 79.8
47. New Jersey -- 78.3
48. Massachusetts -- 77.2
49. Rhode Island -- 77.0

[rudemsshole]

Recent census data shows that the number of immigrants living in Massachusetts has increased over 15% from 2000-2005. The biggest influxes are Brazilians and Latin Americans. According to the census, the population of Central Americans rose by 67.7 percent between 2000 and 2005, and the number of South Americans rose by 107.5 percent. And among South Americans, the largest group to increase appeared to be Brazilians, whose numbers rose by 131.4 percent, to 84,836. This surge of immigrants tends to offset emigration, and, of course, given the 350,000 increase in population in the Commonwealth between 1990 and 2000, many immigrants to Massachusetts come from elsewhere in the USA.

[rudemsshole]

Originally Posted by LeavingMA

Florida is a tough state to judge because i've never really met that many native floridians. A lot of the people in Florida are transplants from the northeast.

Top 100 Cities with Highest Percentage of Foreign-Born Residents (pop. 5000+):

Sweetwater, Florida (74.9%)
Fountainbleau, Florida (73.0%)
Hialeah, Florida (72.1%)
Hialeah Gardens, Florida (69.9%)
Westchester, Florida (69.0%)
West Miami, Florida (68.9%)
University Park, Florida (66.5%)
Chamblee, Georgia (66.1%)
Coral Terrace, Florida (66.1%)
Tamiami, Florida (65.4%)
West New York, New Jersey (65.2%)
Langley Park, Maryland (64.5%)
Doral, Florida (62.8%)
Seven Corners, Virginia (61.2%)
Miami, Florida (59.5%)
Mecca, California (59.4%)
Kendall West, Florida (59.3%)
Olympia Heights, Florida (58.9%)
Kendale Lakes, Florida (58.8%)
Union City, New Jersey (58.7%)
Westwood Lakes, Florida (58.1%)
Palisades Park, New Jersey (57.0%)
Sunny Isles Beach, Florida (56.7%)
Rosemead, California (56.1%)
Harrison, New Jersey (56.0%)

[topher441970]

Originally Posted by neil0311

I just relocated to the Atlanta area from Mass and I can tell you that drivers here in GA are the worst I have ever seen in my life. For some, turn signals are optional and speed limits are suggestions, and for others, they drive like your 95 year old grandmother on sleeping pills. I learned to drive in NYC and lived in MA for 15 years, both areas supposedly famous for bad driving, and I can tell you from first hand experience that those area have much better drivers than the suicide squad here in GA.

Agree 100%, My time in Florida proved to me that driving there proved to be exciting every day, while trying to not be killed or being involved in a case of ROAD RAGE. Driving here is so much better in Massachusetts(Western Mass) Boston is a different story, I don't like driving there either, they are like New Jersey/New York drivers there, or Florida drivers for that matter.... NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!

[Valerie C]

This might not be a politically correct observation but here goes...

Could there possibly be a connection between poor driving habits and people who can't speak/read English? Someone made this observation:
Top 100 Cities with Highest Percentage of Foreign-Born Residents (pop. 5000+):

Sweetwater, Florida (74.9%)
Fountainbleau, Florida (73.0%)
Hialeah, Florida (72.1%)
Hialeah Gardens, Florida (69.9%)
Westchester, Florida (69.0%)
West Miami, Florida (68.9%)
University Park, Florida (66.5%)
Chamblee, Georgia (66.1%)
Coral Terrace, Florida (66.1%)
Tamiami, Florida (65.4%)

9 of the 10 are Florida cities...

I do have a question... CAN you get a drivers license in Massachusetts if you do not speak/write/read English? I live in NH, and as far as I know, testing is in English only here. Inquiring minds want to know!!

[topher441970]

Go to Florida and see who drives there, you would be amazed... ANYONE can get a license there, and believe me they all do.

Originally Posted by Valerie C

This might not be a politically correct observation but here goes...

Could there possibly be a connection between poor driving habits and people who can't speak/read English? Someone made this observation:
Top 100 Cities with Highest Percentage of Foreign-Born Residents (pop. 5000+):

Sweetwater, Florida (74.9%)
Fountainbleau, Florida (73.0%)
Hialeah, Florida (72.1%)
Hialeah Gardens, Florida (69.9%)
Westchester, Florida (69.0%)
West Miami, Florida (68.9%)
University Park, Florida (66.5%)
Chamblee, Georgia (66.1%)
Coral Terrace, Florida (66.1%)
Tamiami, Florida (65.4%)

9 of the 10 are Florida cities...

I do have a question... CAN you get a drivers license in Massachusetts if you do not speak/write/read English? I live in NH, and as far as I know, testing is in English only here. Inquiring minds want to know!!

[remember-voltaire]

Originally Posted by baystater

This was originally written by hilliegal 05-06-2007, 11:49 AM. Under the titled fitting in.

Believe this sums up the New England Attitude.



"I speak for Northern New England when I say the follow because I live there. So if anyone disagrees with what I say, it may be because they live in a different region of New England so here goes:
Understand that our roots are English. Visit or live a short time in a local English village and you will see where the New England mentality comes from.
We New Englanders are polite and gracious to the new people, but we keep them at arms length until we know them better. Don't expect to be invited to their home on meeting them the first time. I'm sure this makes it hard for any new kid in school. After a year and a half, though(depending on where you live in New England) your kid will be considered one of the pack.
The parents? Well...it may take a little longer depending if you and your kid get involved in the local community."

"Three things to consider when living in New England
1. like the English, we don't like and are suspicious of change. WE DON'T LIKE CHANGE.
So New Englanders look to see if you are willing to commit to New England for the long run. That's a big thing. We don't open up to just anybody cause we take our friendships VERY seriously. When we commit to a deep friendship, it's usually for a lifetime even if one of you moves away or don't see each other for months at a time.We run very deep and very sentimental-like our English ancestors.
Alot of people joke that, in northern New England, you have to move there and have a kid growing up in the schools in order to be accepted. If you don't have a kid, you could be kept at arms length for much longer-years---unless you join local clubs through someone you become frineds with locally. Then they will wonder when you WILL have kids.
But once you have a kid in the local school or community system and you get them and you involved with your community, then they start accepting you more on a personal level. After all, your child will be growing up a Yankee. If you are willing to commit to having your kid grow up as a Yankee, then they accept you. You have to prove yourself to New Englanders. Not because they are snobs, but because we don't open up to people easily.Once we do, you can depend on us for anything. Again, it's an English throwback thing."

"2. We have a "clan" mentality and it's a matter of trust.
We definitely have a circling wagons mentality. We like to have stangers introduced to us through someone we trust. This comes out in buckets when the economy gets bad like it is now. So it makes it worst for anybody moving here or a person not affiliated with community or professional organizations. Again I speak from experience about more suburban and rural areas.
But you do see this mentality even in Boston. That's why Boston is considered a "town"and not a city in people's minds because of this mentality. It's "who you know", Where you go to school and where you live is important.
But if you have manners(BIIIIIIIIG THING) and dress well(LL Bean, Coldwater Creek-pretty and functional) on a daily basis, (Stiletto heals and tight fitting clothes on a daily basis will place you in a certain category you don't want to be in for economic maintenance or advancement--my sister-in- law learned this coming from FL and has adjusted quite nicely, thank you) and have a quiet confidence about you(not pushy and loud boasting which New Englanders HATE), they will accept and respect you sometimes in spite of where you come from.
Draw attention to yourself in public like yelling and flailing your arms about when mad and you will see New Englanders run for cover, even your New England friends. You see, We don't like attention drawn to ourselves. We get embarrassed---again, like our English cousins. Of course, we are too polite to berate you about your behavior afterwards"

"3.Don't get us riled. We supress alot of our frustrations and passions. We were always the one breaking the King's peace, remember?
Try to change something we want kept the way it is and you will see a reaction that may set your teeth chattering for months, even years.
Ritual, ceremonies and constancy are a BIIIIG thing in New England just like our English ancestors. Rich in history that we keep and are surrounded by in our 2-300 year old houses, our old ballparks, our covered bridges and old family farms. It's a sourse of comfort to us in a changing ever shrinking world.
It's all a matter of assimilation. If you want to live in Marblehead, for example, you have to see how they dress, how they paint and landscape their houses and which clubs they join and do it. It will get you in much faster. It's not about standing out. It's about fitting in. It's VERY important in New England. this gets you a quicker ticket to acceptance. Don't come charging in trying to change things. Assimilate first and show respect for our traditions then if you think outside the box but stay within the circle, we will listen and accept you politely and will defend your right to think that way to the point of blood drawing.. Won't change though....sorry"


"There's lots more about New England I could point out to you. But it's very rewarding to live here for this reason.You feel part of a bigger whole which everybody craves. You feel you belong somewhere. New England has a sense of place because we've been here for so long. Our ancestor's blood is blended in the soil. This is why people move back to New England when they moved away in their youth
Suburban and Rural areas of America are like this everywhere I'm sure but these are things I have noticed about us New Englanders
Hope this helps"

disagree with most of that and I'm English, no way on this earth are the people like most English folk.
while I lived in massachusetts I was told to go back home, f this f that go home, told to speak English becaue my accent was different to theirs, told to leave a couple of pubs because the pubs was supposed to be irish9they had green curtains and two shamrocks up)
the people inmasachusetts well a lot of them are bigoted when it comes to class, you have to drive the nice 4b4, have the big massive house while preaching the liberal save the planet speel.

founded by the English but certainly isn't anything like the English, go to southie and say your English , ARF, the yuppies moving in might say hello if you have chav gear on like burberry but the locals you can hear still saying the n word .

[willdufauve]

I've lived in Massachusetts for a very long time and have to agree that people here are incredibly rude. It's a very broad generalization with exceptions made for non-rude individuals.

Massachusetts people are cold, snobbish, aloof, full of themselves, small town clannish, class/income obsessed but frumpy dressers. Boston and, even more so, rural western counties are aggressively racist. I think all of New England is rude and unfriendly compared to other places, as if rudeness confirms your elite status.

People are much more interested in career and social climbing/networking than family or friendship. If you're new or returning it's very hard to break in socially. Some of the worst Massachusetts people are transplants from New York though.

[leorah]

When I came to Massachusetts over 30 years ago from the Midwest I didn't think people were any less friendly than those I'd come to know in the Chicago area although I found Massachusetts drivers to be particularly aggressive and rude. However, I've spent a considerable amount of time in southern Indiana, Tennessee, Texas and Louisiana and there is a notable difference in the attitude of the people I've encountered there. The small acts of kindness, the "hello" to a stranger, even the eye contact that I've received when passing strangers on the sidewalk, are rare to non-existent in Massachusetts. Even after all of these years I'm taken aback when a Texas driver pulls onto the shoulder and waves me by as I'm traveling down those narrow farm to market roads. I'm wondering if some of the Northeast's perceived rudeness is related to the stresses of living in the more populous, urban Northeast. And "Southern Hospitality" has become a tradition that many in the South take great pride in upholding, thereby making the contrast even greater. There is a real difference, though. Maybe all of those "Drive Friendly" signs do work!

[remember-voltaire]

I think there are rude people everywhere and especially in the bigger cities

what I have noticed in eastern massachusetts don't know about the west is that there is a problem and that is snobbery, for some reason there are so many people who really believe that they are better than someone else

the yuppies who are moving into the north end, southie etc walk around thinking they are so much better than the locals.They walk with the their burberry on, and their look at me designer handbag


however there are some nice people in mass especially the older folk, the working class it seems to be the younger folk and those who live in the nice burb areas for some reason.