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05-31-2008, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MA_brnNrsd
I agree, it is just as rude putting posts about the "rude" people in the areas as it is the people you are complaining about. So technically you are no better. 
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Excuse me?
There are rules in this forum about personal attacks.
Expressing an opinion, or rather, a fact (yes there are rude people throughout the world, they're not confined to certain locations) --- is not an attack.
Saying "you are no better" is an attack.
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05-31-2008, 05:16 PM
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Thank you so much Boomerang for your kind post. It is truly amazing how [people sit back and bash us and I for one was starting to take it personally....so again, thank you
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You're quite welcome 
Please don't take the kind of general bashing seen on this topic personally, though. I'm sure it's not meant to be personal, although it is a bit thoughtless.
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05-31-2008, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomerang
Excuse me?
There are rules in this forum about personal attacks.
Expressing an opinion, or rather, a fact (yes there are rude people throughout the world, they're not confined to certain locations) --- is not an attack.
Saying "you are no better" is an attack.
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Wasn't meant for you, sorry. It was meant for people who post about these things. I went back to read it after and realized it sounded bad but it wouldn't let me edit it.
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05-31-2008, 11:50 PM
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Wasn't meant for you, sorry. It was meant for people who post about these things. I went back to read it after and realized it sounded bad but it wouldn't let me edit it.
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Oh! My bad.  Sorry right back at you 
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06-01-2008, 08:35 AM
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Oh! My bad.  Sorry right back at you 
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 Glad we cleared it up!
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06-01-2008, 05:00 PM
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I've lived in MA my entire life and I agree that we definitely have an attitude. I don't think this person was trying to pick a fight or be mean, she was just trying to understand why the attitude is so prevalent. I've found even within different communities in Ma, you can be treated differently. We are fiercely loyal but we can also keep you at arms length. I've never quite understood it myself as I tend to be a very outgoing, friendly and polite person. I always try to say hello to people, smile at them, hold doors for them etc but it is not always reciprocated. Guess when you live here you just kind of accept it and move on?
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06-01-2008, 05:04 PM
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had another thought... I agree it is certain parts of Ma can be worse than others (urban verse country)... many here have mentioned Western MA (which is more rural) and I agree the people in that section were wonderful (my sister went to UMASS amherst). It just depends on how busy an area you are in (citys tend to be worse, as there is more stress, people in a hurry etc). I suppose you would find that in any city though?
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06-01-2008, 08:30 PM
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We have prickly skins, but we're mostly warm and fuzzy inside. As for those of us who think we are better, it's just because we really are better 
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06-02-2008, 12:06 AM
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Living in a state much further South than MA, I can't say I agree with you. However, I have gathered this attitude from many New Yorkers.
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06-04-2008, 06:59 PM
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Um... do you not think that such a broad categorization and statement is rude? We're pretty tired of people stereotyping us as rude, bad drivers, and cold. So if you come here with an attitude like that, like youre better than us, be prepared.... we do have a great ability to not only be rude but directly confrontational. People will tell youif they dont like you. We view this as doing you a favor.... you'll always know where you stand around here.
As for driving... we drive differently... not 100 miles an hour like in Texas, The South and the West, we use our turn signals MUCH more than other places I've been, we expect you to yield when youre supposed to... and that's when we think youre supposed to- not when you think youre supposed to. We're pretty much all from here- we pretty much all drive the same way and its a way that works for us. We have a decreasing fatality rate at the moment... we're doing something right on the road.
And I dont know what part of Mass you were in. I work ALL over this state and all of New England for that matter and random people say hello to me all day everyday and all kinds of people at that. Do you make eye contact with people or smile at them? I do... it seems to work fine.
And why exactly should you reveal your personal life to a stranger? That defies common sense... at least around here.
Here's an example: On the street I live exactly one house has turned over in approximately 25 years. Exactly one has has been built in 30+ years. I know EVERY one of my neighbors on my street except the house that recently turned over. As for the one house that has been built in the last 30 years it was built in about 1992. Seven years later we still referred to him as the new guy, and his house as the new house. Eventually he became Mike. Now he's part of the neighborhood. The bottom line is it takes time here.... respect it, or be viewed as a person with an agenda... one that no one will care to know. On a small level if youre in a room with people be yourself. Tell us about where youre from, maybe ask questions about the place we're in. I see youre an investor... take some time, be casual, invest a little into relationships.... or be prepared to get friends from the pink sheets. I know you know what that means.
I understand where you are there are probably new people all the time. Its not like that here. Many people have owned and lived in their home for decades if not generations. We dont move much- you may not think it but we know EVERYone. We often have huge families. I personally am amongst 30 first cousins. I'm 33, the youngest is 3 and they're still being born.
So all that being said. We view "new" people suspiciously. Until proven otherwise you could be a thief, a liar, a child molester, a scam artist, or just plain a jerk. Like Texas(or parts anyway), its VERY dense here. My county has a population density of 962 per square mile. Bristol County, Massachusetts source: wikipedia
Please dont make generalizations about us... We're a casual people who have a way of our own. Dont expect us to be formal- by far most people wont. But by far most people will be genuine, even if they're talking to you in our local dialect... or crude Boston accents can be harsh to the ear. We have a hard accent for most people to enjoy I admit. After all... I lived in Georgia and must admit I loved Tennessee and South Carolina accents... but I also love a "trashy" Fall River or Providence accent.
So I guess I'm writing this to you not even to confront you, definately not to be rude or insult you. But to tell you-
We're tired of people labeling us. There are rude people everywhere. We're all different all over this big country and we all have our cultures and languagesof our own. If we went to the South and called you all racist, insulted the way you talk, told you to stop calling us mam or sir, or just generally offended your culture I'm sure you'd be mad too. And in fact I'm sure plenty of people do all those things. We dont flaunt our culture here. New England has a flag and 90% of people dont know what it looks like. But we have a deep pride too. We're proud of our history and take our place in this country quite seriously. As you know many of us, like our towns, go back a long time. Personally, and yep I'm getting personal, my family has been here for 388 years. In all that time we traveled about 15 miles from where we got off the boat the first time. I'm a Mayflower descendant who absolutely loves Massachusetts and New England with every fabric of my being. Its in my blood, quite literally. I know much about the history of my town all the way back to its founding in 1637. Our habits and ways are strongly engrained. We have a proud tradition of work and craftsmanship- our building codes are some of the toughest. We strongly value intellectualism, creativity, and radical thought.
We dont change for anyone but ourselves and we do what works for us. We dont care how America views us and our activist judges. We live and die by what we believe and arent afraid to lay it all on the line when we feel strongly. In history we've had beliefs that were unpopular in their day, and ahead of the curve when viewed from hindsight.
We take the Constitution and the American ideals extremely seriously. We truly believe we are the "Spirit of America" like our license plate says. In time all of this country will faces the same challenges and situations we have. The traffic, the environment, social problems, labor problems, you name it. But one thing is for sure... we always come out on top. We are indeed a tough minded indepentent lot.
So be a good Southerner( I assume that's where youre from originally I'm sorry if I'm wrong)
.... and be nice will ya?! Try to be nice in our way... just like when we go your home we should be nice in your way. After all.... we'd be a guest.
I really look forward to your response fashionablecowboy. Send it privately if ya like.
But please try to understand this was all from the heart and in my casual Massahcusetts way.
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