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Unread 01-08-2010, 02:08 PM
 
Location: The South
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After the way the law was changed to allow for the temporary replacement, nothing surprises me about MA. I'm surprised Ted didn't leave instructions on how to change another law to guarantee a
certain outcome.

 
Unread 01-08-2010, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Cambridge
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After the way the law was changed to allow for the temporary replacement, nothing surprises me about MA. I'm surprised Ted didn't leave instructions on how to change another law to guarantee a
certain outcome.
C'mon, LynchburgLover. You're from the home of Liberty University and Jerry Falwell and you've come to comment on our Senatorial election? You elect an extremist like Bob McDonnell as governor, an idiot like Eric Cantor to the House, but at least have the good sense to elect Jim Webb and Mark Warner. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
 
Unread 01-08-2010, 02:57 PM
 
Location: The South
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The US Senate has an impact on ALL the states. I never said where I live -- maybe I just like Jack Daniels.
 
Unread 01-08-2010, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Newton, Mass.
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The US Senate has an impact on ALL the states. I never said where I live -- maybe I just like Jack Daniels.
Based on your posts, you're familiar with VA, NC, and SC, so it's likely your home turf is somewhere in that region. In any event, you don't live in MA.

The US Senate certainly does have an impact on ALL the states, which is why it's particularly galling to have a distinct minority of senators (representing an even smaller minority of the population) effectively controlling it.

The US Senate, where 41 is greater than 59.
 
Unread 01-08-2010, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Cambridge
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The US Senate has an impact on ALL the states. I never said where I live -- maybe I just like Jack Daniels.

Which is why it is important to have an interim appointment and not an empty seat, especially with important bills pending in the Senate. And yes, I checked where you posted before I made the assumption that you weren't from here.
 
Unread 01-08-2010, 03:23 PM
 
Location: The South
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Hardly -- you know as well as I do, Democrats can do whatever they want and could vote all this stuff in anytime they like because you're right -- majority still rules this country. That's why I'm interested in who MA chooses to replace Kennedy.

And, last time I checked, (thankfully) speech -- even on a message board -- is free in this country.
 
Unread 01-08-2010, 03:42 PM
 
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Which is why it is important to have an interim appointment and not an empty seat, especially with important bills pending in the Senate. And yes, I checked where you posted before I made the assumption that you weren't from here.
What important bills. All I see is a bunch of useless legislation being passed through because they "have" to do it now. These bills are thousands of pages and no one reads them. Much of the language is so vague that anything can happen. I'd rather see all the congressmen go home and leave us alone. They have more to destroy this country than help.

Not to mention all the backwards deals they make basically blackmailing each other. If we did business that way we would be in jail, but in Washington or any state government it is business as usual. Look at this healthcare bill they are trying to pass, Nebraska probably won't have to pay medicaid taxes because they want their senator on board with it. So they bribe this person and that person because they have too much to lose if the bill doesn't pass. Yea, I can't wait to pay more taxes and work twice as hard just to make ends meet while too many people get a free lunch.
 
Unread 01-08-2010, 06:08 PM
 
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I prefer Brown to Coakley not because he is good but because she is going to bring MA down. Coakley is going to increase spending at the cost of adding tax to middle class families. I don't really care too much about what Coakley put her agenda: 1. Curb corporate greed 2. Protect child from Internet sex predators. 3. universal health care.....

The fact is that many of us middle class families work for those so called greedy corporations, know how to teach kids to avoid the sex offenders, and have employee-sponsored health care already. We really don't need the Uncle Sam to take away our hard-earned cash to help those who live on welfare like parasites.

Coakley doen't talk anything about cut government spending and improve the economy and create more jobs for folks in MA. Too bad democratic party will lose my vote this time.
 
Unread 01-08-2010, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Cambridge
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I prefer Brown to Coakley not because he is good but because she is going to bring MA down. Coakley is going to increase spending at the cost of adding tax to middle class families.


What makes you think that Coakley is going to increase spending? Brown is a member of the fiscally irresponsible party. Let’s consider the past record. Between 2001 and 2007, Bush and his allies in Congress increased the US annual budget from $2 trillion to $2.7 trillion, an increase of about 35% over a period of 6 years. This didn't even include money for the two wars, which were separate line items. At the same time, Bush passed a number of tax cuts that were never offset by spending cuts, effectively pumping cash into the economy to generate artificial growth. With the tax base lowered, and federal aid to states reduced, fees for services increased and states had to get the money somewhere. Brown's promise to cut taxes is a pipe dream during the current economic climate.

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The fact is that many of us middle class families work for those so called greedy corporations.


Many middle class people are also entrepreneurs or work for small and medium-sized companies that have been squeezed by the tax laws that are again heavily weighted toward the multinationals and large corporations. I guess you're fine with large corporations sending your job overseas?

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Too bad democratic party will lose my vote this time.


Please. The Democratic Party ever had your vote in the first place.

 
Unread 01-08-2010, 08:04 PM
 
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What makes you think that Coakley is going to increase spending?

Kathy, read my post CAREFULLY. On Coakey's agenda:
2. Protect child from Internet sex predators. 3. universal health care........

If she doesn't increase spending, where does she get the money to fund these programs? If you have taken Econ 101 (don't tell me that you haven't), you should know that government itself do not have produce revenue? All the money are from tax. And the state government depends heavily on personal tax levied on the middle class.


Brown is a member of the fiscally irresponsible party. Let’s consider the past record. Between 2001 and 2007, Bush and his allies in Congress increased the US annual budget from $2 trillion to $2.7 trillion, an increase of about 35% over a period of 6 years. This didn't even include money for the two wars, which were separate line items. At the same time, Bush passed a number of tax cuts that were never offset by spending cuts, effectively pumping cash into the economy to generate artificial growth. With the tax base lowered, and federal aid to states reduced, fees for services increased and states had to get the money somewhere. Brown's promise to cut taxes is a pipe dream during the current economic climate.

First of all, Brown is NOT equal to Bush! You should not blame Brown for something beyond his control. Brown supports the cut on government spending. Less government spending= less tax for us Middle class.

Second, it was Obama administration who dramatically increased US budget. The national debt increased by $1.9 trillion during FY2009, versus the $1.0 trillion increase during 2008. United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


BTW, I am not a big fan of welfare and local aid. I have only seen so many cases that the welfare has been taken advantage of. As a tax payer, I don't want to give my hard-earned cash to people of laziness and irresponsibility.


Many middle class people are also entrepreneurs or work for small and medium-sized companies that have been squeezed by the tax laws that are again heavily weighted toward the multinationals and large corporations.

And let me tell you the truth as an accounting and tax professional, small businesses are the biggest tax evaders. Many people set up small business as tax shelters and take advantage of tax loopholes and lack of IRS enforcement.

I guess you're fine with large corporations sending your job overseas?


Do you know why jobs are sent overseas? High tax in US is one of the primary reasons for it. In countries like China, foreign investment including US are welcome and granted with a 5 year tax holiday (no tax in first 2 years and 50% of the regular tax afterwards. Even their regular corporate tax rate is only 25% compared with 33% here.

BTW, my job won't be sent overseas at least for the foreseeable future. I am a believer of hardwork and discipline. People overseas can work 10 hours a day and 6 days a week, I can do the same. If people overseas save money for the future generation instead of spending future generation's now, I do the same. If people overseas have high level of professionalism and believe in hardwork, I am also the same.

Also, please read the following article, you will get a better picture why jobs are sent overseas.


My lazy American students - The Boston Globe

I believe a cut in government spending and welfare can push people to work hard.

"NO PAINS NO GAINS"


Please. The Democratic Party ever had your vote in the first place.

I was strong supporter for Clinton and Gore and the late Senator Ted Kennedy.



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