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We as reasonably intelligent people can differentiate between actual Nazi's and real propaganda designed to promote their ideology.
However when you have some people invoke Hitler over every little thing, it loses all it's meaning.
The point being that if you had completely neutral arbiters of what is in violation of spreading Nazi calls for violence and the like, no worries.
But when you have overly sensitive people demanding others be silenced by using wild exaggerations to make their point, some with political/ideological bias might agree. If they are in charge of modern day information/news via platforms like FB, Twitter, Youtube, etc., it can favor one ideology over all others. To ban all forms of speech/communication on an aforementioned platform is what many people are objecting to.
Rest assured old school liberals still believe in freedom of speech/expression. But the new blood that claims to be liberal-minded were raised to worship at the alter of PC, and to them, anything not comporting with their ideology, must be labeled as hate and suppressed.
I don't know which is richer, righties demanding the government tell private businesses whom they should allow on their platforms or lefties defending the right of corporations to do whatever they wish without government interference.
YouTube has and should have the right to exclude whomever it wishes from its platform but they do themselves harm and they do the public good harm through these actions. They certainly do not uphold the ideals of free speech. Neither do these forums, for that matter, which would be immeasurably better without the schoolmarms policing them. Adults should be able to deal with speech they don't like on their own. The best Internet forums have no moderators. (Recognizing that one of the schoolmarms will probably strike this part.)
LMAO.
When it comes to Internet censorship and some other issues (like "incels"), much of the left sounds EXACTLY like right-wing libertarians, it is unreal.
Left vs right seems like a false dichotomy at times...
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No, they are not saying it "sarcastically."
yes they are. My post are clearly an example of that. Or do you think I and others actually support discrimination ?????
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And, you seem to not understand that the cakes shop and pizza parlor both were forced to do business where they didn't want to. YouTube is not being forced to do the same.
I understand your philosophy on life, I disagree and follow my own.
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Problem for youtube is that they have specifically acknowledged in writing that none of Crowders videos breach their TOS. Yet they have demonitized his channel. Youtube deserve all the criticism they get for this nonsense.
I did a quick google search, I dont see where Youtube has written to Crowder and told him his videos never breached TOS.
I think at best you mean crowder posted a video talking about TOS and claims he doesnt violate it, but thats just his opinion.
Youtube has point blank said using slurs, mocking or attacking people is against TOS, Crowders response to people who have pointed that out to him is to claim all of his jabs are "good hearted friendly ribbing", which is BS and obviously only works if both sides see it that way and they clearly didnt.
I did a quick google search, I dont see where Youtube has written to Crowder and told him his videos never breached TOS.
I think at best you mean crowder posted a video talking about TOS and claims he doesnt violate it, but thats just his opinion.
Youtube has point blank said using slurs, mocking or attacking people is against TOS, Crowders response to people who have pointed that out to him is to claim all of his jabs are "good hearted friendly ribbing", which is BS and obviously only works if both sides see it that way and they clearly didnt.
Tim pool explained this. Crowder did not violate youtube terms of service. Crowder mocked maza on being gay, and of him being Mexican, than again context matters. Crowder states that he is being light hearted and comical while maza thinks its offensive and crowder speech violates youtube tos agreement. All I know is. I feel. Sorry for content creators that talk about politics right of center, black or white identities, alt right, and extreme feminist ideologies. Youtube ahs already demonized thousands of content creators and plans on removing them entirely.
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Tim pool explained this. Crowder did not violate youtube terms of service. Crowder mocked maza on being gay, and of him being Mexican, than again context matters. Crowder states that he is being light hearted and comical while maza thinks its offensive and crowder speech violates youtube tos agreement. All I know is. I feel. Sorry for content creators that talk about politics right of center, black or white identities, alt right, and extreme feminist ideologies. Youtube ahs already demonized thousands of content creators and plans on removing them entirely.
2 points.
1. Yes people have made that argument, i disagree. I think Crowders intent here wasnt just to be light hearted( when has using those terms ever been light hearted ? If this was the N word , no one would be on Crowders side.
2. Youtube long ago demonitized LGBT creators for simply talking about what happened in their lives. Yet right wingers never stood up and defended them.
I think even if they disagreed with the issue as they claimed, they could have still stood up for the idea,which is what they claim they are doing for Crowder.
But it seems to me, they fail at this by simply choosing right over left.
Youtube is not trying to pick political winners or losers. All they care about is money.
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