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http://www.city-data.com/forum/michi...-2.htmlI'm not going to add to the flames, but I do have to agree with you all the way. I am from the rural western side but it's all the same thing. I'm only here because I was raised here, VERY luckily still have a job here, and have a daughter here after my wife took off. I've been here all my life but if you don't have the right last name, you might as well be from Detroit as well.