Where ohhh Where to Live In East Memphis (Bartlett, Germantown: condos, crime)

[tigergal]

Originally Posted by Pearlbob

Go ahead and knock the public schools. We don't care

Yes, if you need a generalization, anything within the city of Memphis would require private schooling. Everythign inside the loop IS Memphis City. As is a lot outside the loop.

Tuition varies a ton, depending on the scale of private school and how old the kid is. I have heard places like Hutchinson are close to $20,000 a year for high school. (anyone know for sure?) But otherwise, you can probably do around $2,000 for lower elementary kids at some places.

Yes, Germantown will have more "McMansions" than east Memphis. Almost everything in east Memphis is old, other than a few areas here and there that were bulldozed and rebuilt. I don't know why Germantown homes would be cheaper than places in east Memphis, that doesn't sound right to me. If it's a newer subdivision in Germantown (McMansions) then yes, it might be cheaper than a 1940's huge house in east Memphis. But Germantown also has very, very old homes just like Memphis does. Those probably don't go on sale often though.

The lowest elementary tuition is going to be at least $6,000-$7,000. From what I'm seeing for tuition rates for the 09-10 school year, that will be an extremely low number and would require membership and tithing in a Catholic parish tied to the school in question.

Briarcrest, ECS, and Harding elementary tuition is around $8500. St Agnes/St Dominic Elementary is $10,322. St. Mary's is $14,500. IC is about $5,600 ($4700 for Cathedral members). Christ the King is around $7000. FACS is $6178. St. Francis of Asisi is $7280. Hutchison is $15,000. Lausanne is $14000. These are all for this school year. It usually goes up 10% per year.

About the only school one could get for $2000 would be a kindergarten program through a church.

[Pearlbob]

I think most of the people I know do elementary programs through churches further out in the suburbs, so maybe that is the difference.

Cha-ching!

Originally Posted by tigergal

The lowest elementary tuition is going to be at least $6,000-$7,000. From what I'm seeing for tuition rates for the 09-10 school year, that will be an extremely low number and would require membership and tithing in a Catholic parish tied to the school in question.

Briarcrest, ECS, and Harding elementary tuition is around $8500. St Agnes/St Dominic Elementary is $10,322. St. Mary's is $14,500. IC is about $5,600 ($4700 for Cathedral members). Christ the King is around $7000. FACS is $6178. St. Francis of Asisi is $7280. Hutchison is $15,000. Lausanne is $14000. These are all for this school year. It usually goes up 10% per year.

About the only school one could get for $2000 would be a kindergarten program through a church.

[2nomadic4me]

Fox Meadows is in east memphis but I really don't know if I would like to suggest that. My grandfather designed around roughly (probably less give or take 2-5%) 60% of the Fox Meadows homes throughout the 60's and 70's that had excellent build quality. So if anyone wants to bash homes that were built/designed during that era: they are wrong.

I am not going to suggest Fox Meadows at this time due to its climb in crime and then drop of crime (if it was on a line graph it would look like the plans for a new thrill ride) but the houses were built with great quality. One of the reasons I would not move to Fox Meadows is because it is close to Hickory Hill which is famous for crime. If Fox Meadows was not so close to Hickory Hill, I would definitely recommend it.

My guidelines to Memphis (and I do understand that some of the people on this board may live in Mid-Town and there are nice parts of Mid-Town, Downtown, Uptown, etc) are stay north of where Mt Moriah Rd. hits S. Ridgeway Rd./N. Hickory Hill Rd., East of S. Goodlett St. and Park Ave. meet, and South of Summer Ave. Just where I would choose to live.
The way crime works in Memphis is that once the people who were in poverty move in, the middle-class move out and then when that happens poverty moves in. Then once the middle-class move to a place 10 miles away, the same thing repeats over and over again.

[Smtchll]

Originally Posted by 2nomadic4me

Fox Meadows is in east memphis but I really don't know if I would like to suggest that. My grandfather designed around roughly (probably less give or take 2-5%) 60% of the Fox Meadows homes throughout the 60's and 70's that had excellent build quality. So if anyone wants to bash homes that were built/designed during that era: they are wrong.

I am not going to suggest Fox Meadows at this time due to its climb in crime and then drop of crime (if it was on a line graph it would look like the plans for a new thrill ride) but the houses were built with great quality. One of the reasons I would not move to Fox Meadows is because it is close to Hickory Hill which is famous for crime. If Fox Meadows was not so close to Hickory Hill, I would definitely recommend it.

My guidelines to Memphis (and I do understand that some of the people on this board may live in Mid-Town and there are nice parts of Mid-Town, Downtown, Uptown, etc) are stay north of where Mt Moriah Rd. hits S. Ridgeway Rd./N. Hickory Hill Rd., East of S. Goodlett St. and Park Ave. meet, and South of Summer Ave. Just where I would choose to live.
The way crime works in Memphis is that once the people who were in poverty move in, the middle-class move out and then when that happens poverty moves in. Then once the middle-class move to a place 10 miles away, the same thing repeats over and over again.

Yeah in some parts of Memphis, but not all. Most of East Memphis has remained stable throughout the decades. Old-money decided to stay in East Memphis instead of moving further east. I think it's because of the private schools. People dont have to keep moving further away to avoid crappy school districts. They have their private schools that will remain stable.

[lscalder]

The issue with Memphis is the pool of buyers who will buy a $500k home. You might need to think about selling as well. How many people have money in Memphis to afford a home that is $500k and over.

[JoeCartpath]

Judging from the sheer number of homes in that price range (and up) that are occupied I'd say the pool is fairly large.

[2nomadic4me]

Originally Posted by Smtchll

Yeah in some parts of Memphis, but not all. Most of East Memphis has remained stable throughout the decades. Old-money decided to stay in East Memphis instead of moving further east. I think it's because of the private schools. People dont have to keep moving further away to avoid crappy school districts. They have their private schools that will remain stable.

In some parts of East Memphis that is true. But, I don''t believe so for all parts of East Memphis.

[cats935]

thanks to all for the input - I appreciate it.

Question: i noticed a poster said to live east of S Goodlett St (in the context of the "less crime" conversation). Again, you guys are the locals, and I'm not, but I definitely saw nice homes and what seems to be good neighborhoods (Galloway, Chickasaw Gardens, etc.) that are west of the street. Am I missing some sort of nuance here, or have things spread that far east? I don't want this post to turn into another crime fear-mongering post, but just wanted to ask the question.

thnx in advance

Also, what's the story with 38120 zip code (east of White Station Rd, north of Poplar and then spilling over I-240 east to Germantown) and 38119 (east of White Station, south of Poplar and over I-240 east to Germantown)?

And just a few more so you guys totally lose your patience with me:

- How far away would I want to stay from the University of Memhis campus.
- Are there any parts of Germantown that are "better" than others? I thought I saw a post or two somewhere saying that west Germantown is better.
- If I look on the south side of Poplar should I not even consider anything below Park (or should I even be looking below Poplar at all?)

[simcity]

@ cats935

How about you post URLs or addresses of the properties in question and we’ll give you our opinions of the area.

>> Question: i noticed a poster said to live east of S Goodlett St

Subdivisions commanding the highest amount per square foot can be found in Red Acres, Chickasaw Gardens, & River Oaks. Both Red Acres and Chickasaw Gardens are West of S Goodlett St.

>> How far away would I want to stay from the University of Memhis campus.

As PearBob said earlier, Galloway (Red Acres) is walking distance from U of M. In fact, the most expensive home on the market within the 240 loop is < 0.5 miles from U of M and located in Red Acres.

You wouldn’t want anything South of Southern in the U of M area.

>> - If I look on the south side of Poplar should I not even consider anything below Park (or should I even be looking below Poplar at all?)

Desirable neighborhoods found on South side of Poplar.
I ranked list from most desirable area to least (in my opinion):
Chickasaw Gardens (9 homes listed, from $350k to $995k)
Weldon Place ($1 million range, none for sale though)
Bellaire (across from Overton Park)
Central Gardens (historic area, many homes, nice association website)
Boxwood Green (new development and the association needs to improve the lighting)

[2nomadic4me]

SORRY! I meant Highland St. I personally wouldn't go that far but I do understand that there are nice houses there but I have a feeling that area will be going down in 5-10 years. Just my intuition!