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Old 10-08-2012, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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That's the way I saw, that sexuality was causing him some mental anguish so it makes sense for it to be moved. I think anyone that is different in any way has a hard time where there is a lower population. It is just harder to fit in such a limited group. I guess the OP needs to spell out his needs, what he is looking for. A therapist might be helpful to just talk it through but too often that ends up in a forever rather than being helpful, seriously, I read where people are in therapy for years and I think that if they had a close friend to talk to..............you know where I am going with that. Some counselors are good though and just help someone figure out what they want and how to get it rather than reshape them into a "norm". Too much emphasis is put on "sexual" these days and porn, think it does not harm, look around.
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:27 PM
 
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That's the way I saw, that sexuality was causing him some mental anguish so it makes sense for it to be moved. I think anyone that is different in any way has a hard time where there is a lower population. It is just harder to fit in such a limited group. I guess the OP needs to spell out his needs, what he is looking for. A therapist might be helpful to just talk it through but too often that ends up in a forever rather than being helpful, seriously, I read where people are in therapy for years and I think that if they had a close friend to talk to..............you know where I am going with that. Some counselors are good though and just help someone figure out what they want and how to get it rather than reshape them into a "norm". Too much emphasis is put on "sexual" these days and porn, think it does not harm, look around.
I think moving to a bigger city might help. the biggest city in our state is an hour away. Fargo (population 250,000). That's pretty big compared to the city i live in now population (60,000). Part of it is that i grew up in such a conservative family oriented environment and i am a rule follower but i think what i really want deep down is both someone to have great sex with but whom i love and am close to at the same time. Just having sex with a random stranger for only lust seems a big 'wrong' to me.
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Old 10-08-2012, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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He's spent his entire life up to now, the age of 35, being disgusted by the idea of being in a meaningful sexual relationship. I REALLY don't think the therapist is going to be "extending" anything.
"meaningful sexual relationship"? You have to be kidding...any relationship based strictly on achieving personal pleasure and that is only about sensuality is NOT a real relationship... Maybe this person is just an angel in human form...who really does not need sex- straight or gay. In ancient scripture there are beautiful angels that come to earth and the primitives assume they are gay...and they wanted to "know them" - in other words have sexual relations...Gay may not be based on sex or attraction- There are many gays the adore beautiful men and woman...They are attracted to human beauty...I am not sure when beauty got sexaulized....but it may just be some strange fixation..that manifests it self in the genitals..who knows..This whole gay thing will be studied for a few decades and maybe we will know what it really is- at this point is a strange phenomena.


Human beings are not BORN THAT WAY...young children are gender neutral...a 1 year old boy or girl does not even know what sex they are....It is conditioning.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:03 AM
 
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I think moving to a bigger city might help. the biggest city in our state is an hour away. Fargo (population 250,000). That's pretty big compared to the city i live in now population (60,000). Part of it is that i grew up in such a conservative family oriented environment and i am a rule follower but i think what i really want deep down is both someone to have great sex with but whom i love and am close to at the same time. Just having sex with a random stranger for only lust seems a big 'wrong' to me.
Yes that would help to move. It is a "numbers game". Gay men are a minority. Gay men who want to have a relationship (and not just sex) are a small minority of that minority. So if you live in a small town, then those numbers can be quite small. A larger city would have larger numbers of gay men who wanted to have a relationship.

Also with much larger cities like 2 million or more, there are gay areas where it is not uncommon to see two men walking down the street holding hands.

Actually I just searched google.com for the words...

gay friendly cities

...and there were many web site pages which came up in that search. One mentioned Washington, DC. That is interesting!
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Old 10-09-2012, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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Maybe it doesn't have to be a really large city but a different city. You've seen what your city has and are not attracted to any of those and this happens to a lot of people so that isn't unusual. And, two thumbs up for wanting more than casual sex. There were two guys, a couple, in our old neighborhood and they would sit on the porch together and work outside together and because of being a long term couple, they existed among everyone else in the community and had a life together. We also had an elderly couple in the RV park when we lived near Tucson. I think you just want to settle down the way most do and as you age, it is like the clock is ticking and you get kind of anxious about being alone, growing old alone. So, you'll figure it out and just like for most of us, when you least expect it, that person enters your life. Anyone can have a casual sexual relationship but finding someone special to share your life with takes a little more time and work. I feel your frustration.
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Old 10-14-2012, 04:57 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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I definitely understand your situation. I feel the same way myself. Actually, this is the first time I've read a post from someone who's described a situation so similar to mine, so it's nice to know that I'm not alone in feeling this way. Most gay men where I live are also all about hooking up, especially with apps like grindr. That being said, I don't think this is just a gay issue, because I think we're all aware that there's lots of straight people who have one night stands as well. I admit to doing the hook up thing for a while, and I would always regret it the next day. Sure, it feels good while it's happening, but then I would just feel dirty when it was over. And being the eternal pessimist that I am, I would immediately start thinking oh no, what if I've contracted something, leading to terrible anxiety until I went to get tested. I don't want to put myself through that anymore, so now I actively seek a long-term relationship instead.

So no, I don't think there's anything wrong with you. I think lots of people, gay or straight, would feel the same way. The solution I think is to seek a long-term relationship with someone you feel safe with. It's healthier, safer, cleaner. I think that once you find a LTR and you genuinely trust the other person, then the sex won't feel demeaning or disgusting at all.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Quincy, Mass. (near Boston)
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I second that poster who said to check your area's Craigslist "platonic" personals. Even in the large cities, you'll find very, very few of these postings. You will find overwhelming ads from gays to just hook up on that site.

But just by looking at those few ads, and the ads from larger cities, even if far away, you will find that a few people do wish for more than just hookup.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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It all sounds like, to me, a fear of intimacy, surrendering, or just not having found the right person to push your buttons!

When I came out, my first few sexual experiences were so ho-hum, so boring, I didn't care if I ever had sex again with another man!

But, I stumbled across someone, who knew every button to push, swept me out to a sexual ocean that I've never returned from!

Finally it clicked: Sex is the greatest joy available to mankind!

A suggestion: Look up someone who's skilled at giving one-hour tantric massages! Or try two hours! If that doesn't do it, what will!!!
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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The classic gay life style in urban centers is very unsavory. My daughter walks her dog in a very large inter city park. There are hundreds of condoms strewn everywhere in the wooded areas..at first she thought hetero teenagers were getting it on in the darkened wooded area..She google the name of the park and it came up as a primary gay cruising spot.

This "hooking up" by gays who do not even know each other is disgraceful..there is nothing nice or decent about it...I could see how some intelligent gays might also be disgusted in this behavior. It is as debauched and unpleasant to say the least. Propaganda regarding gay rights and freedoms and how they are a persecuted minority leads most liberals to believe they are all sweet decent gentle creatures....some are just plain horrid and morally depraved.

I know this one mature gay couple who are friends of one of my daughters..they are respectful and I like the fact that they enjoy and buy my art. They are pretty straight as far as the way they live. The are not interested in "gay pride" - nor do they respect the gay urban culture...In fact they loath most gays...Not because they are homosexuals but because they are nasty idiot..who are self centered - self absorbed and are part of a scene that is NOT cool... I don't have a problem with conservative gays..at least they think for themselves..the ones that do not think and resent hetero sexual men and woman - I have use for..gays can be haters too.
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Valley of the Sun
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Part of me finds sexuality in general to be demeaning and sick.
I dont know if I'd use the words "demeaning" and "sick" but it's definitely weird, stinky. She leaves a big wet spot on the bed, he's got some sort of strange sticky fluid coming from his penis, her poop hole is less than an inch from my tongue.......it's all just kinda gross. That being said I'm going bang the crap out of my wife when I get home while my daughters are at soccer practice.
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