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View Poll Results: Should we be able to force people into getting mental help if they need it?
Yes, if they have serious mental issues, they must be addressed 28 57.14%
No, it is not our place to assist these people 14 28.57%
not sure 7 14.29%
Voters: 49. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-18-2008, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Thanks for your response. I appreciate your commitment to this issue.

I don't see any real changes soon unfortunately. Our politicians - across the spectrum - are way too shortsighted and fiscally irrespsonsible to address this issue in a meaningful way. It would take a rare leader with foresight and the ability to communicate to the public why change is necessary - and how it would save money and suffering in the long-run. And even then, one of us (and the schools of thought that we represent) is likely to disagree with the proposed changes.

I suppose the best thing is to hope that research continues to come up with better medications. Hopefully, we don't tax or sue "Big Pharma" to the point that research suffers!


See, we do agree Basically, in order for major change to take place, mental health needs to piggy back on the (hopeful) changes to the health care system.
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Old 02-18-2008, 06:38 PM
 
Location: southern california
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the good part about being schizophrenic is you never have to eat alone.
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Old 02-19-2008, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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the good part about being schizophrenic is you never have to eat alone.

Wow. That's pretty insensitive.
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Old 02-19-2008, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Boise, ID
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Wow. That's pretty insensitive.
For two people that started with such a disagreement, jessiegirl, we seem to be agreeing a lot lately!
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Old 02-20-2008, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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For two people that started with such a disagreement, jessiegirl, we seem to be agreeing a lot lately!

Definitly
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:19 PM
 
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Actually this was decided legally years ago.It of course came about from a committment that was later found to not have mental problems.I believe it was a case in Florida in the early 80's. As a result of this; many that were in institutions had to be released unless it was proved that they were a immediate threat to themselves or others. Thousands and thousands of mental patients were sent home on buses and that was the first time I every saw a homeless person.Substance abuse can look like emtnasl problems. Then mental patients often abuse substances to self medicate.
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Old 02-22-2008, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Actually this was decided legally years ago.It of course came about from a committment that was later found to not have mental problems.I believe it was a case in Florida in the early 80's. As a result of this; many that were in institutions had to be released unless it was proved that they were a immediate threat to themselves or others. Thousands and thousands of mental patients were sent home on buses and that was the first time I every saw a homeless person.Substance abuse can look like emtnasl problems. Then mental patients often abuse substances to self medicate.
Actually, it was destitutionalization in the 60's and it was country wide.
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Old 02-22-2008, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Minnesota, USA
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Actually, it was destitutionalization in the 60's and it was country wide.

Actually, (seeing as we're all saying that... lol), there was mass deinstitutionalization during the Reagan era of the 1980's too...
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Old 02-22-2008, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Chicago 'burbs'
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People with mental health issues should be treated the same as people having any other illness ie:if it becomes mandatory for people with diabetes for example to receive health care then it should be be mandatory for people with mental illness to receive health care-if it is not mandatory for diabetes etc than it should not be mandatory for mental health illnesses.
That said,there should be high quality mental health physicians and services in every town/state for people that voluntarily choose to receive treatment for their mental health illnesses.
BUT people with diabetes generally are not a threat to those around them. People with certain mental illnesses CAN be. If there is reason to believe that someone can hurt themselves or others, they should be forced to get help before they hurt someone. PERIOD
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Old 04-11-2008, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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Mom saw warning signs in son who planned shooting spree - CNN.com

another person failed by the system

will we reading about him going on a rampage in a few years?

how man others are out there?
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