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Old 06-03-2009, 11:39 AM
 
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SCGranny wrote:
People who are happy all of the time are either stoned, stupid, or don't know what is really going on.
That seems like a gross mis-perception to me, but you are certainly entitled to percieve things and propose your theories as you see fit. As for me, when I'm happy, it is because I MADE A DECISION TO BE HAPPY. For me and many others, your theories do not apply.

Happiness is a choice! Read it....you might change your attitude.

 
Old 06-03-2009, 01:55 PM
 
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Default Finally some common sense

It seems as though the country is turning to a passive-aggressive, blue-pill, forced pacifist mentality. It is considered so offensive now to question or become upset over anything I will not be trampled on, used, mistreated, ripped off, etc. without defending myself. There are too many opportunistic sociopaths and bullies around today.

Happiness is not a "decision" or superficial image to project as "attitude". It's a condition of emotional being brought on by internal AND external influences. Dealing with and resolving issues is healthier than resorting to denial and delusion. Ask someone who has been through a serious loss.

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Old 06-03-2009, 01:59 PM
 
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What is everyone supposed to walk around like a pot stoned idiot all the time? Happy no matter what happened?

"Wow man, Mod cut: language happens, dude".

The next in a list of normal human reactions to be classified as a medical condition in order to collect insurance money.

What a bunch of nuts, LOL!

Geez, reminds me of people who think doorknobs are dirty... and called obsessive... but the doorknobs *really* are dirty.

How do these people get classified as "doctors" rather than pushers?

No doubt the "solution" will be one SSRI or another... that no doubt has a side effect like... err... umm... "bitterness".

I don't think being bitter is a mental disorder. I look at it as a something that comes from Satan. Personally, sometimes I think the mental health industry doesn't always know what they're doing. To me, sometimes psychologists try to "medicate" people into normalcy too much.
 
Old 06-03-2009, 03:40 PM
 
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I don't think satan has anythig to do with feeling bitter. IMO, bitterness is simply an outcome of poor thinking habits. A bitter person is a person who focuses their attention on things that make them feel bitter. Change your focus and change the way you feel. It really is that simple, but shifting focus can be a real challenge!
 
Old 06-03-2009, 09:22 PM
 
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For what it's worth, there is a medical side to this too. It doesn't help that our food now contains all kinds of chemicals which do affect some people. I got rid of several prescriptions after eliminating allergens, additives, etc. and taking probiotics.

Or as the saying goes, "it must be something in the water"

AP: Drugs found in drinking water - USATODAY.com
Traces of Drugs Found in Drinking Water - ABC News
What's In That? How Food Affects Behavior - Health & Science - CBN News - CBN.com
The Diet-Behavior Connection
Roger Masters - Toxins, Brain Chemistry, and Behavior (http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7Ermasters/tbcba.htm - broken link)
Effects of Toxic Metals on Learning Ability and Behavior
ScienceDirect - NeuroToxicology : Neurobehavioral effects of ambient air pollution on cognitive performance in US adults
 
Old 06-04-2009, 12:43 AM
 
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"I'm not crazy, M'lynn. I've just been in a very bad mood for 40 years!" - Ouiser Beaudreau, Steel Magnolias

And there isn't a thing wrong with that.People who are happy all of the time are either stoned, stupid, or don't know what is really going on.They're the ones you need to be careful of - because when their Pollyanna world finally and inevitably comes crashing down around their ears, or their drug - whatever it is, prescription, illegal, emotional or physical - runs out, there is no telling how they will react.That much pent-up emotion could be explosive. They are the ticking time bombs.

I'm not bitter - I'm a realist.
LOL! Agreed.

Being *too happy* has got to be a psychosis of some sort too. Perhaps just a more pleasant one to be around (well maybe, LOL!)
 
Old 06-04-2009, 12:44 AM
 
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SCGranny wrote:
People who are happy all of the time are either stoned, stupid, or don't know what is really going on.
That seems like a gross mis-perception to me, but you are certainly entitled to percieve things and propose your theories as you see fit. As for me, when I'm happy, it is because I MADE A DECISION TO BE HAPPY. For me and many others, your theories do not apply.

Happiness is a choice! Read it....you might change your attitude.
Happiness as a choice, at least on it's face, strikes me as an act of self delusion. Emotions are reactions. If we held them apriori, that would be a prejudice... and everyone *knows* that if you have *those* there's something wrong with you, LOL!

 
Old 06-04-2009, 12:52 AM
 
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Why so "bitter" on all of this? No one expects you or anyone else to walk around like a pot stoned idiot all the time thinking the world is a beautiful place all the time and is all flowers, sunshine, music, love, peace and happiness..it surely isn't but what it surely is is how you deal with all the negatives life can deal out. This is what makes or breaks your opinion of who is entitled to REAL psych help and who isn't and who should beon SSRI and who shouldn't. Are you the one to determine who is a little off and needs help? I don't think so. Have you ever seen someone who is a little off and needs help? Sure doesn't sound it.

When my late husband had his heart attack back in 1992, I went to Social Security to find out if he could qualify for help. He was also a Viet Nam Vet and had served his country without one complaint. His heart attack was a major issue...not a small heart attack...a huge one. The doctors patted him on his head and sent him home. Anyhow, Social Security told me that they felt he was capable and able to work...he died 3 months later. I went BACK to Social Security and their first response to me was, "I told you Mrs........that your husband wasn't eligible"...GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE SKILLS, HUH? I said to this person, "that's ok...I'm not here to apply again..I am here to tell you he is dead"....and then I left. Bitter? You betcha...but I just deal with it...I had my say.

There are all kinds of "Human Conditions" and I for one am thankful that there are professional people out there who can help those of us who have both emotional and physical conditions. To classify these professionals as pushers is bitter on your part. Try to have just a tad more compassion for your fellow humans and you will find that being so bitter is wasting energy that you could better spend someplace else doing good for someone or something.
My issue is that a lot of normal human reactions get misdiagnosed as disorders because the diagnosis process is a subjective thing done in a "clinical hour" (40 minutes).

Unlike, say cancer, where you can point to the broken part (or infection as it may be) the classification and diagnosis of many mental conditions are done on a subjective, and socially defined basis. With *no* way to distinguish a *false positive*.

So for me, psychiatric diagnosis is a little lacking in precision.

Sure, cases of "howling at the moon crazy" or autism, etc. that are very clear can be pointed out easily. But when you get to the difficult hair to split between "disorder" and "merely eccentric" or "typical human response"... *that's* where caution is needed. Especially since said diagnosis carry the stigma of "mental defect" with them, and equally imprecise drug treatment regimens are often used as "treatment".

Geezus, psychiatry is the industry that brought us Dr. Walter Friedman and lobotomobile "Lobotomobile"... electric shock treatment and many other ills.

We should be a little more cautious at this late date.
 
Old 06-04-2009, 12:53 AM
 
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Everything will be a disorder at some point. THe goal of the pharm industry is to have everyone on drugs. Its really no big secret. They will have everyone classified/documented and microchipped. They will scan your brain at birth and have on drugs right away. If you don't take your daily dose of drugs the micro chip will signal the authoroties you failed to take your meds.......

Sounds a bit sci fi now but it most certainly could happen.....
See "Brave New World"... Aldous Huxley.

You have heard of Soma, right?
 
Old 06-04-2009, 12:55 AM
 
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I used to be angry and bitter, but then I got old and realized I was going to die.

So I stopped thinking about stuff that I couldn't do anything about, which was what was making me angry and bitter.

Now I'm happy and content.

I'm still going to die, but so is everyone else.

I love it. The part about "... but so is everyone else."

So THERE!
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