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I do not subscribe to the whole disease concept. I think it's a choice to pick up a drink or a substance. It's a choice to drive to the store for more when under the influence vs. taking a cab. This whole disease concept lets a lot of people off the hook.
Now, having said this, there must be a sickness in doing something that ends one up passed out on the floor. Ugh.
I do not subscribe to the whole disease concept. I think it's a choice to pick up a drink or a substance. It's a choice to drive to the store for more when under the influence vs. taking a cab. This whole disease concept lets a lot of people off the hook.
Now, having said this, there must be a sickness in doing something that ends one up passed out on the floor. Ugh.
It does not start as a disease, it becomes one.
You may not subscribe to it, but that does not mean what you think is true.
The chemical set up makes you obsessive and depressed. When you make the choice you have these chemicals influencing you. Not to say that addicts don't p. me the f. off to the highest degree. I can understand, but they still are being selfish and destructive because its easier to feel the devil you know that the one you are not quite so familiar with, the truth of things and waiting it (bad feelings) out.
But think of it this way...Think of the one thing in your life that brings you the most comfort that you always go to....ok...now take it away and you can NEVER have it again. Figure something else out to calm you.
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Hunger is a chemical influence on the body. It can give you the same brain boosts that drinking or drugs can. So let me put you in a room and you are not allowed to have a bite of food for about 30 days. You will survive this, but its not going to be pleasant.
Just even as a game with yourself try to give up all sugar for a month to see how you feel. (if you eat sugar that is)
You may not subscribe to it, but that does not mean what you think is true.
Well, we don't call smoking a disease yet it kills five times as many people each year as does alcohol.
Oh well, I guess it doesn't matter what one calls it. I just tried calling my friend and he's turned his phone off.
This makes me angry. Now I get to sit and wonder if he is ok. He was to have visited me but I guess I can forget about that. First it was Wednesday or Thursday, then it was today, then it was tomorrow, then it was Monday. I see a little detox visit to the ER in his immediate future.
The chemical set up makes you obsessive and depressed. When you make the choice you have these chemicals influencing you. Not to say that addicts don't p. me the f. off to the highest degree. I can understand, but they still are being selfish and destructive because its easier to feel the devil you know that the one you are not quite so familiar with, the truth of things and waiting it (bad feelings) out.
But think of it this way...Think of the one thing in your life that brings you the most comfort that you always go to....ok...now take it away and you can NEVER have it again. Figure something else out to calm you.
or
Hunger is a chemical influence on the body. It can give you the same brain boosts that drinking or drugs can. So let me put you in a room and you are not allowed to have a bite of food for about 30 days. You will survive this, but its not going to be pleasant.
Just even as a game with yourself try to give up all sugar for a month to see how you feel. (if you eat sugar that is)
Great post. I understand what you are saying. I really do. It's just that being on the receiving end of this kind of behavior is no fun.
It puts me in a spot where I have to decide if I am going to make an issue out of things or not.
I once had a friend (past tense) who overdosed on pills. She told me she had taken 30 of something. I didn't have her address and she made me promise I wouldn't call anyone. Yeah, right. So I called the police in that state, they traced the number and they went to her house. Apparently she did die and was revived. My thanks for this? She wouldn't talk to me for six weeks because I "betrayed her." Yet another addict.
Well you talk about consequences...Cutting him off could be one of them. Some people never learn until they hit rock bottom. Or they just need that shocker to slap them into wanting to be better. People that really want to die don't call someone and tell them they did o.d. And then being unhealthy control freaks as addicts are they backfire onthemselves if they do reach out. Since you took control over her she is going to displace her frustration on to you. VERY annoying..and unhealthy for you. Always being there for people like that can enable them to stay like that. It would be so much nicer if the cartoon trick of a good bash on the head worked for bringing people back to thier senses. Ahh...oh well.
Some addicts are selfish in the beginning...then can not help themselves because they crave the substance which helps them or hinders their pain. I think this is also a sign of weakness. My uncle and aunt were addicted to alcohol. My uncle did the AA meetings but still came back to the roots were his bad friends were. My aunt was taken away from her hometown...and got better. She tells me though she can never drink again...its too tempting.
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Well you talk about consequences...Cutting him off could be one of them. Some people never learn until they hit rock bottom. Or they just need that shocker to slap them into wanting to be better. People that really want to die don't call someone and tell them they did o.d. And then being unhealthy control freaks as addicts are they backfire onthemselves if they do reach out. Since you took control over her she is going to displace her frustration on to you. VERY annoying..and unhealthy for you. Always being there for people like that can enable them to stay like that. It would be so much nicer if the cartoon trick of a good bash on the head worked for bringing people back to thier senses. Ahh...oh well.
Do you think you are just going to cut him off?
I don't know. Even if I did cut him off, I don't think it would make a difference. He'd then use THAT as a reason to drink more.
For my sake though? Well, in some ways he is like the father I never had, so it's tough. I've even asked him to be the executor of my will. When he is sober, he is solid as a rock and I know I could trust him.
Well I think changing that executor status would be a nudge and general good decision on your part. If he is off on a binge who knows what would happen.
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He was to have visited me but I guess I can forget about that. First it was Wednesday or Thursday, then it was today, then it was tomorrow, then it was Monday. I see a little detox visit to the ER in his immediate future.
Yet another addict.
