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Old 07-10-2007, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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Default North American Union?

I am curious as to what most Mexicans thing about our US President pushing for a North American Union, with open borders, new flag, new rules, etc. Thanks
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Old 07-16-2007, 12:02 AM
 
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Yes, I'm interested as well any Mexican care to talk about this subject? The latest I've heard is that there is a North American fund that is going to be used to boost Mexico's economy and salaries to somewhat match U.S.A. and Canada the other two North American countries.
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Old 07-25-2007, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Sheridan, Wy
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I too am very curious on the Mexican perspective of the N. American Union.

Sadly there are many in the U.S. that believe that it is a conspiracy theory and that there is no such thing as the N. American Union thanks to propaganda and endoctrination from the US government.

I for one believe it is very real and happening..

anyways with that aside I am curious of what others in Mexico think about all this going on...
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Old 07-26-2007, 08:08 AM
 
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It's not going to work, they are still going to come to the U.S. for access to all the good welfare and assistance we have here.
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Old 08-04-2007, 08:06 PM
 
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Default Food for Thought

Lets look at the real reasons for establishing NAFTA.---Free Trade agreements. No tarriffs,taxes or import and export quotas.
OK lets look at a typical US company like Briggs and Stratton.They built almost every small engine that powers our yard equiptment.Thats a lot of engines.Other companies have gotten involved but B+S is by far the largest.They have moved all their manufactoring jobs to Mexico.Auto parts stores like Auto Zone all transport their remanufactored parts from Mexico.The list of turncoat companies is almost endless.Why are they moving there.Low wages,no employee rights fewer taxes.So why would the US government push to better the conditions of the Mexican worker in Mexico?Why would the US stop immigration legal or not?
Its not in the interest of big business to change Mexico into another America.That will come soon enough but only thru Human Rights organizations,Labor Unions and Enviromental Activists but for now,big business will do everything in its power to stave off any change that will change their strong hold on the Mexican worker.They want the work force to fill the medial jobs here in the USA.They have always paid the minimum wage anyway so it doesnt change anything by allowing the Hispanic people to come here.In fact in some cases they actually save money by not haing to pay into Social Security or cover these workers with insurance.Afterall if the worker is here illegally he wont complain.
Today is the day for the workers of the world to unite and stop this exploitation of our worker rights.
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Old 08-05-2007, 05:28 PM
 
Location: South Central PA
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I'm completely for imports from Mexico that would replace imports from china. I view it as if there are more jobs there, there is a possibility it might lower the amount of illegals.

However, my main fear would be for an NAU is that 1) wages would be lowered by a significant influx of available workers for pretty much anything than high education jobs and even those would be slightly impacted cause of canada. 2) Crime. Last time I recall (although this was a few years ago), mexico made up 1/4th the worlds kidnappings and that was only those reported.

So yeah, i'm pro-trade pacts, anti-unification.
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Old 08-05-2007, 05:40 PM
 
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Lets look at the real reasons for establishing NAFTA.---Free Trade agreements. No tarriffs,taxes or import and export quotas.
OK lets look at a typical US company like Briggs and Stratton.They built almost every small engine that powers our yard equiptment.Thats a lot of engines.Other companies have gotten involved but B+S is by far the largest.They have moved all their manufactoring jobs to Mexico.Auto parts stores like Auto Zone all transport their remanufactored parts from Mexico.The list of turncoat companies is almost endless.Why are they moving there.Low wages,no employee rights fewer taxes.So why would the US government push to better the conditions of the Mexican worker in Mexico?Why would the US stop immigration legal or not?
Its not in the interest of big business to change Mexico into another America.That will come soon enough but only thru Human Rights organizations,Labor Unions and Enviromental Activists but for now,big business will do everything in its power to stave off any change that will change their strong hold on the Mexican worker.They want the work force to fill the medial jobs here in the USA.They have always paid the minimum wage anyway so it doesnt change anything by allowing the Hispanic people to come here.In fact in some cases they actually save money by not haing to pay into Social Security or cover these workers with insurance.Afterall if the worker is here illegally he wont complain.
Today is the day for the workers of the world to unite and stop this exploitation of our worker rights.
I've heard that Mexican businesses need to make 30 day contracts and renew them constantly with their workers because they can gain a lot of rights in the business. They can literally take your business away if you don't hire the right lawyer with the right contracts. In those cases I Mexican workers do have a lot of rights.
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:04 PM
 
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now way Mexico could ever replace China in more then a handful of industries

I agree though we should be maximizing our trade and economic interaction with

Mexico. What helps them helps us really. It would be really nice if there was some

kind of "retirement" deal/package that was offered to expats... semi-citizenship maybe
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Old 01-10-2008, 07:55 PM
 
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I'm not a Mexican but I see the protests against NAFTA and the very close election was in part a reaction against the loss of Mexican sovereignty.

Mexico with the USA is too artificial of a union -- just as the Soviet Union was. There is no common language, culture, traditions and history to unite the people into one artificial nation. At some point both people will prefer their own separateness and differences -- not the elitists because to them it's about money, but the average people will put country and their history first.
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Tucson
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to boost Mexico's economy and salaries to somewhat match U.S.A. and Canada the other two North American countries.
You got it, but in reverse...
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