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Old 09-30-2011, 12:14 PM
 
Location: The west
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I don't get many people. They are uncomfortable and very vocal about the illegal immigration from Mexico, and then when the tide is clearly turning, they seem to also be uncomfortable with that too.

What the hell?

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I'm glad Mexico is progressing (and so is Brazil and Chile and Panama and Colombia and Peru and China, but not the U.S. or Spain or Italy or Greece or Japan. Do you see a pattern here?)

The world has changed, people need to learn to accept this.
That's because most Americans don't understand that the new wave of illegal immigration is coming in from Central America: Guatemala and especially El Salvador. People from these nations also are brown and have black hair and speak Spanish. They come into the U.S. VIA MEXICO. The average American could never tell them apart (Mexican, Guatemalan, El Salvadorian) if they stood next to each other and said the same phrase in Spanish especially the folks from the Mid- West . So the American assumes the Mexican illegal continues to come into the U.S. and that these studies and reports - like the one presented here on this thread by the NY Times - are false. Also, if a Mexican prospers here or in Mexico the American doesn't like that at all. Never has. Never will. Its OK if Warren Buffet makes billions but if Carlos Slim makes money its an outrage. The American will always have that sentiment that "our poop doesn't smell."

-Cheers.

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Old 09-30-2011, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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It is different and I stand by what I said.
You didn't say anything except "It's different". That's not an argument.

Explain, logically and/or with data, how it is different.
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Mexico
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You didn't say anything except "It's different". That's not an argument.

Explain, logically and/or with data, how it is different.
Living conditions in the USA are different than in Mexico, differences in terms of culture, government assistance, etc. That creates a different type of problem than the one we face in Mexico. You can't deal with the problem in the same way.
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Old 09-30-2011, 03:31 PM
 
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Is like this:

Farmers are driven from their lands and sent to towns, they arrive to big cities and then realize they are not trained to do the jobs that are available in cities and without education, without options, decide:
a) Living in poverty
b) Joining crime
c) Moving to USA.
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Old 10-02-2011, 03:55 PM
 
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And how do you account for all the Americans who are engaged in criminal activity, like drug trafficking, prostitution, fraud, petty theft, burglary, car theft, etc. It's because in America, there are no jobs (that pay that well) and no opportunities in education (at ghetto schools)..
Homicide rates in the USA in 2010 were at an all time low. Much much lower than homicide rates in the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s. About the lowest since 1911.

Interesting that the economy is bad but the homicide rates are dropping.

In fact Mexico was much poorer AND safer not too long ago. Maybe it's not poor people who are actually the most murderous.
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