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We will have to agree to disagree on the part I bolded. Mexicans are manufacturing the drugs that they import into the US. Additionally, to blame Americans for the barbaric crimes being committed in Mexico is just wrong. To my knowlege not a single American has beheaded a single person in Mexico.
While I agree that both countries have played a pivotal role in terms of supply and demand, it's totally unrealistic to state or believe that the US bares responsibility for what is going on in Mexico. IMHO the solution is to seal the southern border, stop all financial aid and let Mexico deal with her people and issues and America the same.
If Americans weren't buying drugs, Mexico wouldn't have drug cartels. If there are no customers for a product, there won't be any vendors.
As for no Americans in the drug cartels, are you crazy? These are a few we know about:
This was the case in several recent arrests of U.S. citizens made in Ciudad Juarez.
A 16-year-old girl arrested during a police operation on Nov. 16 in Juarez was charged with participating directly in at least one of the six kidnappings carried out by Mexico’s El Cabezon gang
Ricky Painter and his girlfriend were arrested three days later while driving an automobile that had been reported stolen in El Paso, while 28-year-old Vicky Veronica Calderon was arrested barely 24 hours later along with a group of gunmen from the Los Aztecas gang.
Traffickers are recruiting in the United States, and prefer to hire young. Texas high schools say cartel members have been on their campuses. Most notoriously, a 14-year-old from San Diego became a head-chopping cartel assassin.
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"I slit their throats," he testified at his trial, held near Cuernavaca. The teenager, called "El Ponchis" - the Cloak - was found guilty of torturing and beheading and sentenced to three years in a Mexican prison.
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The Sinaloa clan hired their own protection, a gang named Los Negros led by a blond-haired, blue-eyed American from Laredo. The man's cohorts called him La Barbie.
As the Zetas enacted their terror, that blond-haired, blue-eyed American leading Los Negros got angrier. La Barbie was Edgar Valdez, a Texas high school football star who worked his way into the Mexican underworld as a pot dealer.
In seeking partnership from the United States, Mexican officials point out that the illicit drug trade is a shared problem in need of a shared solution, and remark that most of the financing for the Mexican traffickers comes from American drug consumers
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Street gangs with cartel ties are not only in Los Angeles and Dallas, but also in many smaller cities across the United States and much farther north of the Mexican border. Mexican cartels had a presence in 230 cities in the United States in 2008, according to the U.S. Justice Department. Its 2011 report shows that presence has grown to more than 1,000 U.S. cities. While the violence has remained mostly in Mexico, authorities in Arizona, Georgia, Texas, Alabama and other states have reportedly investigated abductions and killings suspected to be tied to cartels.
If Americans weren't buying drugs, Mexico wouldn't have drug cartels. If there are no customers for a product, there won't be any vendors.
That wasn't the original assertion. It was that US drug users are responsible for the horrific violence in Mexico. It's the Mexican cartels that choose how they operate and do business, not the US drug users. The cartels could as well decide to work together peacefully for the common criminal good and probably make much more profits without the enormous expenditures of fighting each other. Instead they, not the users, decide to wage war on each other and engage in unspeakable and inhumane acts of brutality.
That wasn't the original assertion. It was that US drug users are responsible for the horrific violence in Mexico. It's the Mexican cartels that choose how they operate and do business, not the US drug users. The cartels could as well decide to work together peacefully for the common criminal good and probably make much more profits without the enormous expenditures of fighting each other. Instead they, not the users, decide to wage war on each other and engage in unspeakable and inhumane acts of brutality.
My sentiments exactly. As much as mexicans and their government would like to blame the US drug users for their problems, they cannot justify or blame the beheadings and headless bodies hanging from bridges on Americans. According to them nothing is ever their fault or responsibility.
The US is mostly responsible for the massive drug trade from Mexico, it's true. But Mexico is mostly responsible for the drug violence in it's own country. No 1st World country would tolerate the BS going on in Mexico right now. Stop trying to blame the US when it's your rampant corruption and lawlessness which allow it to continue.
The US is mostly responsible for the massive drug trade from Mexico, it's true. But Mexico is mostly responsible for the drug violence in it's own country. No 1st World country would tolerate the BS going on in Mexico right now. Stop trying to blame the US when it's your rampant corruption and lawlessness which allow it to continue.
If the U.S. could control drug consumption cartels would fade. But nobody knows how this could be done. It is impossible.
No other country in the world has shown the balls that Mexico has. Putting criminal in serious restrain and fear so they kill each other is the perfect way to attack their interests and get rid of an old scum that has been affecting the country for decades.
Meanwhile, Mexico continues its way and has placed it self as the sixth host economy for Foreing Direct Investment in the world.
By the way. The U.S. imports more drugs from Canada than from Mexico.
The U.S. government (that has killed its own presidents and politicians), as well as the Canadian government are as corrupt as Mexico. The difference is that Mexico is fighting crime, while Canada pays a blind eye and the U.S. tolerate them.
Anyone interested in me proving these facts? let me know guys.
That wasn't the original assertion. It was that US drug users are responsible for the horrific violence in Mexico. It's the Mexican cartels that choose how they operate and do business, not the US drug users. The cartels could as well decide to work together peacefully for the common criminal good and probably make much more profits without the enormous expenditures of fighting each other. Instead they, not the users, decide to wage war on each other and engage in unspeakable and inhumane acts of brutality.
This is true, but on the flipside, you can't ignore the root of the problem. They're competing for our business, now if you take our business away, they, on the drug trafficking front, would have nothing left to fight for, no? they can always fall back on kidnapping, extortion etc... cartels will be cartels, but in terms of drug trafficking, they'd be pretty much de-fanged,right?
If the U.S. could control drug consumption cartels would fade. But nobody knows how this could be done. It is impossible.
No other country in the world has shown the balls that Mexico has. Putting criminal in serious restrain and fear so they kill each other is the perfect way to attack their interests and get rid of an old scum that has been affecting the country for decades.
Meanwhile, Mexico continues its way and has placed it self as the sixth host economy for Foreing Direct Investment in the world.
It is impossible, but - you can't depend on America to solve it's drug problem so that Mexico can solve it's cartel problem. It's a two way street, everybody has to work.
Secondly, I'm not sure what you mean here
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No other country in the world has shown the balls that Mexico has. Putting criminal in serious restrain and fear so they kill each other is the perfect way to attack their interests and get rid of an old scum that has been affecting the country for decades.
That wasn't the original assertion. It was that US drug users are responsible for the horrific violence in Mexico. It's the Mexican cartels that choose how they operate and do business, not the US drug users. The cartels could as well decide to work together peacefully for the common criminal good and probably make much more profits without the enormous expenditures of fighting each other. Instead they, not the users, decide to wage war on each other and engage in unspeakable and inhumane acts of brutality.
Right, they could cooperate with each other like the U.S. gangs did during Prohibition or do today.
The point being that there would not be any gangs at all battling each other for turf peacefully or violently if the U.S. didn't buy drugs.
There is a rumor circulating that a dozen or more local women will be kidnapped this weekend in retaliation for the female arrested in whose home the escaped kidnapped victims were held. So far no one has been kidnapped and several of the bad guys have been apprehended who are responsible for the kidnappings and mutilations based on what she told the police.
Maybe this latest and more horrific incident is over. The foreign community is going all out trying to comfort the families of the innocents who were butchered by these monsters.
Maybe Geree can post a better translation. This is a bad Google translate:
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Elements of the Public Security Secretariat of Jalisco arrested four men with guns and drugs in the town of Tala, who allegedly are involved in the kidnapping of 12 people and the discovery of 18 bodies mutilated in Guadalajara.
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