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Old 06-24-2013, 08:18 AM
 
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I'm against mixing religion and politics. I don't think religion belongs in politics or sports.
That's your opinion and I respect that.

The only thing I say is that was given too much importance to a trivial matter, because Margarita will be the next candidate for governor of NL and the PRI government will attack her at any matter.
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:29 PM
 
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In terms of conservatism, how conservative is Mexico not just religiously but overall?? I know most Mexicans in the US are religious and conservative and would vote Republican if not for the illegal immigration debate. (I personally AM very much against illegal immigration. My own parents came here legally.) Its always interesting hearing about gay marriage in Mexico and I'm shocked a mayor can be charged with a crime for invoking religion as some have posted here. Wouldn't that mean its illegal to say Merry Christmas and they have to say Happy Holidays? I don't think there is a large and powerful Muslim or Jewish community in Mexico that would be offended by religion and most Mexicans are religious so whats with all these laws?

How conservative is Mexico economically? I've heard it is a conservative country masquerading as a liberal country, in that while there is socialist medicine, the government run healthcare is very poorly funded and most rich Mexicans use private hospitals, private schools, live in gated communities etc so while there is socialist medicine and lots of government services that a Democrat would love those are poorly funded. How true is this? And does Mexico have lots of low density suburbs like the US or are there liberal laws restricting urban development and forcing high density? I've been researching Cancun ahead of my trip this month and even that area seems very dense compared to a similarly sized American city. In the US, high density and "smart growth" Are things pushed by Liberal Democrats.

I do know that Mexico is very liberal when it comes to gun control though that's not kept the cartels from getting weapons at a fast and furious rate, and I also know Mexico doesn't have the death penalty unlike most of America. Perhaps having the death penalty (like for cartel leaders) and giving ordinary people the right to own guns will help make Mexico safer.
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Old 07-05-2013, 08:18 AM
 
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In terms of conservatism, how conservative is Mexico not just religiously but overall?? I know most Mexicans in the US are religious and conservative and would vote Republican if not for the illegal immigration debate. (I personally AM very much against illegal immigration. My own parents came here legally.) Its always interesting hearing about gay marriage in Mexico and I'm shocked a mayor can be charged with a crime for invoking religion as some have posted here. Wouldn't that mean its illegal to say Merry Christmas and they have to say Happy Holidays? I don't think there is a large and powerful Muslim or Jewish community in Mexico that would be offended by religion and most Mexicans are religious so whats with all these laws?
There is a double standard implicit in the majority of Mexicans, some go to church every Sunday but the rest of the week they forget their religion.

In large cities the religion is becoming less important.

What is legal in Mexico is not as important as the laws are generally ignored in such superficial details like the ones you mention.

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How conservative is Mexico economically? I've heard it is a conservative country masquerading as a liberal country, in that while there is socialist medicine, the government run healthcare is very poorly funded and most rich Mexicans use private hospitals, private schools, live in gated communities etc so while there is socialist medicine and lots of government services that a Democrat would love those are poorly funded. How true is this?
Mexico is a liberal country.

There is no such thing as socialist medicine, the social insurance system (IMSS) is paid for by contributions from workers and only they have the right to this social security.

The system Seguro Popular is paid by all mexican taxpayers and is aimed at people with a high level of poverty. Anyway, is not completely free, all procedures have reduced cost and studied case by case.

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And does Mexico have lots of low density suburbs like the US or are there liberal laws restricting urban development and forcing high density? I've been researching Cancun ahead of my trip this month and even that area seems very dense compared to a similarly sized American city. In the US, high density and "smart growth" Are things pushed by Liberal Democrats.
For years Mexico follow the sprawl model from US, but that is not sustainable, for this reason some big cities are starting with high density development. But not mandatory, if some one wants to live in the suburbs can do it.

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I do know that Mexico is very liberal when it comes to gun control though that's not kept the cartels from getting weapons at a fast and furious rate, and I also know Mexico doesn't have the death penalty unlike most of America. Perhaps having the death penalty (like for cartel leaders) and giving ordinary people the right to own guns will help make Mexico safer.
Is demonstrated by serious studies that the death penalty does not reduce crime rates.

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Old 07-05-2013, 08:35 AM
 
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In terms of conservatism, how conservative is Mexico not just religiously but overall?? I know most Mexicans in the US are religious and conservative and would vote Republican if not for the illegal immigration debate. (I personally AM very much against illegal immigration. My own parents came here legally.) Its always interesting hearing about gay marriage in Mexico and I'm shocked a mayor can be charged with a crime for invoking religion as some have posted here. Wouldn't that mean its illegal to say Merry Christmas and they have to say Happy Holidays? I don't think there is a large and powerful Muslim or Jewish community in Mexico that would be offended by religion and most Mexicans are religious so whats with all these laws?

How conservative is Mexico economically? I've heard it is a conservative country masquerading as a liberal country, in that while there is socialist medicine, the government run healthcare is very poorly funded and most rich Mexicans use private hospitals, private schools, live in gated communities etc so while there is socialist medicine and lots of government services that a Democrat would love those are poorly funded. How true is this? And does Mexico have lots of low density suburbs like the US or are there liberal laws restricting urban development and forcing high density? I've been researching Cancun ahead of my trip this month and even that area seems very dense compared to a similarly sized American city. In the US, high density and "smart growth" Are things pushed by Liberal Democrats.

I do know that Mexico is very liberal when it comes to gun control though that's not kept the cartels from getting weapons at a fast and furious rate, and I also know Mexico doesn't have the death penalty unlike most of America. Perhaps having the death penalty (like for cartel leaders) and giving ordinary people the right to own guns will help make Mexico safer.
I think that's a myth -- if you take a look at the sky high illegitimate birth rate and the dependency on Medicaid and food stamps, it would indicate they will vote for democrats. In fact hispanics are the one group that is seeing their poverty rates rising -- and poverty in the USA means government dependency.

Church attendence is really not all that high in the Mexican communities and abortion clinics along the border are numerous and busy.
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:26 AM
 
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I think that's a myth -- if you take a look at the sky high illegitimate birth rate and the dependency on Medicaid and food stamps, it would indicate they will vote for democrats.
Not necessarily. Look at Mississippi. Or low income non-Hispanic whites in your own state.

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Church attendence is really not all that high in the Mexican communities and abortion clinics along the border are numerous and busy.
If the demand is there, and it is, then someone will fill it.

If abortion became illegal on the US side of the border, you just know the cartels would start illicit clinics and make even more money....
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