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Old 12-14-2015, 03:42 PM
 
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Which leaders of Mexico did a lot more harm than good?
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Old 12-14-2015, 04:49 PM
 
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Victoriano Huerta, betrayed and had Madero killed after the initial objective of the revolution had been reached (deposing Díaz). He basically kicked off what became almost two decades of misery and infighting that ended up in the creation of the PRI.

Santa Anna, by taking awful decisions in the war with Texas, ended up having to cede 1/2 of Mexico's territory to the USA

Gustavo Díaz Ordaz and Luis Echeverría, who had students and dissidents killed

José López Portillo, who spent like a drunken sailor during Mexico's oil boom years and ended up with a massive crisis in 1982.

Miguel Mejía Barón. He didn't put Hugo Sánchez for extra times in the 1994 World Cup's round of 16 match vs Bulgary. Mexico lost in penalty kicks.
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Old 12-14-2015, 06:39 PM
 
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What about Carlos Salinas?
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:43 PM
 
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Frito Bandito. Followed by Speedy Gonzales.
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:53 PM
 
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Victoriano Huerta, betrayed and had Madero killed after the initial objective of the revolution had been reached (deposing Díaz). He basically kicked off what became almost two decades of misery and infighting that ended up in the creation of the PRI.
Not to mention his doomed scheme to align with Germany to conquer the USA in World War I!
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:47 AM
 
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To me, Plutarco Calles tops them all.
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Old 12-15-2015, 08:18 AM
 
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Any leader that causes a revolution is a bad leader. For me Porfirio Diaz did a lot more harm than good.

In modern times Díaz Ordaz responsible for the deaths of hundreds of students in 1968, Luis Echeverría had its share in 1971.

And those responsible for economic disasters: José López Portillo, Miguel de la Madrid and Carlos Salinas de Gortari...

Calderon also has its share as the more violent modern times in Mexico thanks to his war on narco.
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Old 12-15-2015, 10:05 AM
 
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Any leader that causes a revolution is a bad leader. For me Porfirio Diaz did a lot more harm than good.
General Porfirio Diaz is often judged with contemporary eyes, in my book he did what was necessary in order to put the country back on track. He was by no means perfect, he was human after all, but Mexico during his term as president/dictator experienced for once since 1810 ''Order and Progress'' -his motto- and growth. Some argue that most of the wealth back then wa sin the hands of so few, but isn't that the case nowadays as well?
Next time I go to Paris, I'd do my best to stop by his grave and leave a flower on it.

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Old 12-15-2015, 01:34 PM
 
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Most since the Revolution just imposed the dictates of their party's controlling factions to the benefit of their cronies. That's really not doing much. Besides most Mexicans make the same mistake as just about everyone else in the democratic world. They assume good economic conditions for me = good President which just isn't a good way to judge them.
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Old 12-15-2015, 02:26 PM
 
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General Porfirio Diaz is often judged with contemporary eyes, in my book he did what was necessary in order to put the country back on track. He was by no means perfect, he was human after all, but Mexico during his term as president/dictator experienced for once since 1810 ''Order and Progress'' -his motto- and growth. Some argue that most of the wealth back then wa sin the hands of so few, but isn't that the case nowadays as well?
Next time I go to Paris, I'd do my best to stop by his grave and leave a flower on it.
Sincerely for the 35 years he was in power did Little, progress based on enslaving your fellow citizens?

I do not understand how anyone can admire a satrap, a dictator who killed millions of Mexicans then lose the war and went as usual with much of the treasure of the country to live like a king in France.
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