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Old 02-17-2017, 08:20 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Winterfall8324 View Post
I love the Mexican people. I hate their government
As do the majority of Mexican civilians, who are forbidden from owning firearms they desperately need to protect themselves against extortion from cartels.

The corrupt gov isn't stupid, allowing civilian gun ownership would result in their downfall.
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Old 02-17-2017, 10:05 PM
 
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I am totally dismayed, sad and alarmed by what is happening now. All the media talk on the radio about Trump.

All the time I think how it might have been possible for this person to have won. It is incredible to think how one of its strategies was to deny global warming and at the same time to boost the coal industry, when it causes a lot of pollution, aside from the fact that today the American economy is based on the services sector.

The fact of the wall is one of the few Mexicans who consider that within the whole, is in all its right as long as it is within the American territory and even then there will be disputes.

The saddest thing of all is how this guy wants to get out of NAFTA when it is fully proven that that decision would cause a great recession within his economy. Who the hell as president comes up with ideas that go against his economy and generate a considerable loss of jobs.

In the USA, it is in the best interest of US companies to stay in Mexico and from here to create low-paid jobs and at the same time favor the finished products offered at a competitive price.

The departure of many American companies in Mexico will cost a lot of unemployment and where they will want to stop those unemployed ... to USA.

God enlightens this character so that his rhetoric and posture is for the benefit of all and not thinking with his head hot.

And well you do not have to talk about Steven Bannon



1) You have to separate the science from the politics with global warming. The hysteria with the global warming alarmists is hf


2) NAFTA is bad for the middle class and wages. Bernie Sanders also said it and he is a Democrat.


3) if you are not an illegal, coyote, drug cartel or a terrorist, why does a wall on the border bothers you or affects your life directly? you won't get your heroin cheap? or your crew to mow your lawn and babysit your kids and clean your house?
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Old 02-17-2017, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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1) You have to separate the science from the politics with global warming. The hysteria with the global warming alarmists is hf


2) NAFTA is bad for the middle class and wages. Bernie Sanders also said it and he is a Democrat.


3) if you are not an illegal, coyote, drug cartel or a terrorist, why does a wall on the border bothers you or affects your life directly? you won't get your heroin cheap? or your crew to mow your lawn and babysit your kids and clean your house?
+1

I agree 100%.
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Old 02-18-2017, 10:16 AM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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They are not undocumented immigrants, they are illegal aliens.
The term "illegal aliens" is not found in the U.S. immigration laws... So can you provide a valid definition of your slanderous comment?


nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/who-is-undocumented-immigrant
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Old 02-18-2017, 10:53 AM
 
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1) You have to separate the science from the politics with global warming. The hysteria with the global warming alarmists is hf


2) NAFTA is bad for the middle class and wages. Bernie Sanders also said it and he is a Democrat.


3) if you are not an illegal, coyote, drug cartel or a terrorist, why does a wall on the border bothers you or affects your life directly? you won't get your heroin cheap? or your crew to mow your lawn and babysit your kids and clean your house?
You actually have to know about science, be interested in science, talk to scientists, be immersed in environmental issues to have a valid opinion about whether or not climate change exists.

As for the wall, it is deflecting. There are tunnels, there are visas. But, the tremendous costs will be passed on to us, middle class consumers, so, NO to the ridiculous wall.
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Old 02-18-2017, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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The term "illegal aliens" is not found in the U.S. immigration laws... So can you provide a valid definition of your slanderous comment?


nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/who-is-undocumented-immigrant
Under federal law all people that are not US citizens are aliens. Those that enter the country illegally or don't leave when they should are "illegal aliens". That is a fact not subject to debate.
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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"NAFTA is to blame for the loss of manufacturing jobs" No, sorry:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=4EKm

Basically same rate of reduction since well before China's massive industrialization (50s), NAFTA ('94), and China's entry to WTO ('01). Automation is main factor, the fact that the US kept developing (the more development the larger your services sector) is a main factor. NAFTA? minimal, if any, basically same slope in that chart.

And actually, the share of manufacturing jobs has been at its SLOWEST decline since the end of the great recession ('10).

Last edited by Collective; 02-18-2017 at 10:08 PM..
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Old 02-19-2017, 07:01 AM
 
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1) You have to separate the science from the politics with global warming. The hysteria with the global warming alarmists is hf


2) NAFTA is bad for the middle class and wages. Bernie Sanders also said it and he is a Democrat.


3) if you are not an illegal, coyote, drug cartel or a terrorist, why does a wall on the border bothers you or affects your life directly? you won't get your heroin cheap? or your crew to mow your lawn and babysit your kids and clean your house?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZmWBRsJ4gA

This is a short and sweet version of how NAFTA completely ruined Mexico. Clinton ruined Mexico, and now there are towns were no husband, or sons live because they've HAD to come over the border to make a living. I'm sure they'd rather stay with their families but NAFTA stripped their livelihood.

Pulling out of NAFTA will fix not only our issues but Mexico's as well. It made me sick watching Hilary say she was watching out for Mexicans. What a joke after what NAFTA did.
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Old 02-19-2017, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZmWBRsJ4gA

This is a short and sweet version of how NAFTA completely ruined Mexico. Clinton ruined Mexico, and now there are towns were no husband, or sons live because they've HAD to come over the border to make a living. I'm sure they'd rather stay with their families but NAFTA stripped their livelihood.

Pulling out of NAFTA will fix not only our issues but Mexico's as well. It made me sick watching Hilary say she was watching out for Mexicans. What a joke after what NAFTA did.
+1

You are definitely right about this.
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Old 02-19-2017, 11:56 AM
 
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The term "illegal aliens" is not found in the U.S. immigration laws... So can you provide a valid definition of your slanderous comment?


nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/who-is-undocumented-immigrant
Actually, it's the term "undocumented immigrants" that is not found anywhere in laws. The term "alien" is used in countless places to refer to a non-resident/citizen. And by definition, anything against the law is "illegal".
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