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Old 03-22-2008, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania USA
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(Albuquerque, N.M.) — The police chief of a Mexican border town racked by smuggling-related violence fled to the U.S. seeking asylum after his deputies abandoned him, federal officials said Friday.
Mexican Police Chief Seeks Asylum - TIME
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Old 03-22-2008, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Rosarito Beach
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Default Sleepy little Palomas . . .

Well, you need to understand that there is little support south of Palomas, I'd guess about 80 miles to Juarez and 100 or more to Aguas Caliente, so if he feared for his life, a walk across the border was his only real option for protection. One problem is, is he a good cop running from the narcos, or a bad cop running from the federales? Hard to tell, sometimes . . . .
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Old 03-22-2008, 12:24 PM
 
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And 11 are assassinated in half a day in Juarez:

11 en medio día | Diario.com.mx: Edición Cd. Juárez
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Old 03-22-2008, 12:26 PM
 
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And Veracruz:

Asesinan a comandante de la SSP de Veracruz | Diario.com.mx: Edición Cd. Juárez
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Old 03-23-2008, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Rosarito Beach
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Throughout all of Mexico, about 900 have been killed this year. Some were good cops chasing bad guys, some were bad cops shooting the good cops, some were narcos killing narcos, good cops and bad cops as they try to fill the gaps left by those killed or arrested. All good on paper (except for the good cops), but sort of a fruitless endeavour. With the hugh $$$$ from US consumers, drug trafficking will continue no matter who gets killed or thrown in jail / there is ALWAYS someone in line for a promotion . . . . The demand for drugs must die before the supply will stop, simple Econ 101!
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Old 03-23-2008, 10:58 AM
 
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Throughout all of Mexico, about 900 have been killed this year. Some were good cops chasing bad guys, some were bad cops shooting the good cops, some were narcos killing narcos, good cops and bad cops as they try to fill the gaps left by those killed or arrested. All good on paper (except for the good cops), but sort of a fruitless endeavour. With the hugh $$$$ from US consumers, drug trafficking will continue no matter who gets killed or thrown in jail / there is ALWAYS someone in line for a promotion . . . . The demand for drugs must die before the supply will stop, simple Econ 101!

To me that's not the solution because it's a what came first -- the egg or the chicken kind of argument.

They're bringing drugs into middle schools, Mexican meth is being colored and flavored like candy to get kids addicted at a young age -- to create that "supply" which then of course they can justify their "demand". With drugs there isn't much demand until the supply has produced the addicts who demand them.

You could try to limit the demand by throwing non-violent drug users in prison -- but why? Who has to pay for that? Or limit the supply by closing the border, controlling who and what comes over the border. Or Mexico could decide it doesn't wish to be the drug trafficking country any more and it could clamp down, it could even decide to enforce it's side of the border.

I think it's follow the money. There are those on both sides of the border who are profitting very nicely from all this and they don't want it stopped.
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Old 03-23-2008, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Rosarito Beach
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Of course its money driven, but economics isn't so hard that you have to dismiss it as chicken/egg. You can have tons of dirt in your country, but until soeone wants to buy it, its worthless . . . .

And no one can stop the flow, as long as there is enough $$$ wanting it. The Mexican border is only 1 way drugs get to the US / there are many more paths, close or choke one and it'll come another way. And Mexico IS fighting it, let's see / about nine hundred dead in less than 3 moths in Mexico, and, let's see again / in the US, they released one of the Areallno Cartel brothers from jail . . . .
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Old 03-23-2008, 03:14 PM
 
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Of course its money driven, but economics isn't so hard that you have to dismiss it as chicken/egg. You can have tons of dirt in your country, but until soeone wants to buy it, its worthless . . . .

And no one can stop the flow, as long as there is enough $$$ wanting it. The Mexican border is only 1 way drugs get to the US / there are many more paths, close or choke one and it'll come another way. And Mexico IS fighting it, let's see / about nine hundred dead in less than 3 moths in Mexico, and, let's see again / in the US, they released one of the Areallno Cartel brothers from jail . . . .
Well -- I'm against throwing drug users in prison for their entire lives -- so I guess as long as the border is open to the drug traffickers and they want to bring drugs over, then this can go on just like it is. Rehab doesn't really work because they have to want to quit and many don't want to quit. Mexico doesn't want to stop it because it brings in too much money. Plenty of people are getting rich from this -- most people I think are like me and don't want to execute the victims of the drug trade which are the users, nor do they with to build prisons to hold them -- so it's futile. As long as they keep the killings in Mexico -- the violence is Mexico's problem. It's our problem as far as the effects on the users, the food stamps and so on they end up needing.
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Old 03-24-2008, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Rosarito Beach
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Well -- I'm against throwing drug users in prison for their entire lives -- so I guess as long as the border is open to the drug traffickers and they want to bring drugs over, then this can go on just like it is. Rehab doesn't really work because they have to want to quit and many don't want to quit. Mexico doesn't want to stop it because it brings in too much money. Plenty of people are getting rich from this -- most people I think are like me and don't want to execute the victims of the drug trade which are the users, nor do they with to build prisons to hold them -- so it's futile. As long as they keep the killings in Mexico -- the violence is Mexico's problem. It's our problem as far as the effects on the users, the food stamps and so on they end up needing.
And there's the problem . . . . the US attitude towards drugs and drug users!
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Old 03-24-2008, 01:35 PM
 
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It pays to be a criminal in Mexico. Get Rich die trying.
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