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Old 02-13-2018, 04:43 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I'm afraid, but I'll come just to spite dothetwist. Where is your village exactly?
Baja isn't like it used to be where you could vacation for cheap. It used to be that the crime all happened near the border now it's spread. My boating/fishing group quit using Cabo as our moored boats kept getting burglarized by tweekers. East Cape still ok, for now.

No thanks.
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Old 02-13-2018, 06:33 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Baja isn't like it used to be where you could vacation for cheap. It used to be that the crime all happened near the border now it's spread. My boating/fishing group quit using Cabo as our moored boats kept getting burglarized by tweekers. East Cape still ok, for now.

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IDK, 1AngryTaxPayer, in the SD forum, you made it sound like you are barely scraping by in SD, and have to work so much, that you barely ever see the ocean.
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Deep in the Heart of Texas
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The murder rate in Mexico is 20.5 per 100,000 people. By comparison, that of New Orleans is 24.5, Baltimore is 27.3, and St. Louis is 29.1. So, while Mexico isn’t the safest place in the world, some US cities are equally or more dangerous, and popular vacation spots like Jamaica and the Bahamas have as high or higher murder rates.
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:30 PM
 
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"USA Today" newspaper reported several months ago, that many U.S. tourists in (Cancun or Acapulco??) were falling unconscious after having sedative drugs slipped in their cocktails. They wake up with injuries as if they were beaten, and all their valuables gone. This often happens simultaneously to married couples, or traveling companions. The local police do nothing to investigate. Local hospitals also give minimal treatment, and then stick the tourists with expensive medical bills.
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:33 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Yep, Acapulco is now "DO NOT TRAVEL", according to the U.S. State Dept.
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Old 02-13-2018, 11:17 PM
 
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The murder rate in Mexico is 20.5 per 100,000 people. By comparison, that of New Orleans is 24.5, Baltimore is 27.3, and St. Louis is 29.1. So, while Mexico isnā€™t the safest place in the world, some US cities are equally or more dangerous, and popular vacation spots like Jamaica and the Bahamas have as high or higher murder rates.
While I will agree that most of the murders are cartel related and not a direct threat to tourists and most residents, you are comparing apples and oranges. You are comparing an average murder rate for an entire country with just the most dangerous selected cities of another. If you want to look at New Orleans, then compare it to Acapulco. Compare country to country, or compare city to city, but it's disengenuous to distort the comparison.

Of course, the murder rate doesn't indicate your specific chances of being a victim. That is greatly influenced by your own actions. Avoiding bad areas, not associating with bad people, and not getting involved with bad activities can improve your own safety tremendously. One problem for the American tourist though is that they have a far better sense on how to do that in an American city.
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Old 02-14-2018, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Meredith NH
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"USA Today" newspaper reported several months ago, that many U.S. tourists in (Cancun or Acapulco??) were falling unconscious after having sedative drugs slipped in their cocktails. They wake up with injuries as if they were beaten, and all their valuables gone. This often happens simultaneously to married couples, or traveling companions. The local police do nothing to investigate. Local hospitals also give minimal treatment, and then stick the tourists with expensive medical bills.
It's even worse.....most hotels, restaurants and bars use unregulated bootleg alcohol which has large amounts of methanol.In large amounts it will render you unconscious or make you very ill.People are drowning in hotel pools, even after a few drinks and are
being raped,beaten or robbed in many cases.
Most of this goes unreported.When someone dies in Cancun,they refuse to do an autopsy and charge sometimes 10's of thousands of $$ to ship the body back to the states.
The police to not investigate because Mexico is totally corrupt.
The Mexican government does it's best to cover up these crimes so as not to discourage tourism but I wouldn't't let me family anywhere near that place
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Old 02-14-2018, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Faux News has a built in bias against countries of color. Stats have to do with cartel on cartel violence.

Again, if you are afraid, please don't come. In our village and in PV (where we were for a week) there are waaaaaay too many gringos this winter, from both US and mostly Canada.
So obviously you have an agenda against Fox News. Where is the EVIDENCE they have a bias against countries of color?

I am not afraid. Mexico is nothing. I've been to some countries where you'd pee your pants.
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Old 02-14-2018, 07:18 AM
 
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While somewhat outdated, I found the following interesting (and it's not from Fox)---
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...jalisco-colima
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Old 02-14-2018, 10:18 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/mu...haven-acapulco


Journalist:
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In Acapulco, it’s not just a war on the violence and the gangs. It’s a war of perception. And they don’t want people thinking about and
seeing the violence that’s going on here.

Gang member:
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They’re lying. They say that everything is OK, but we are not saying the same. Nothing is seen negatively on the TV, so tourists come here.
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