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Old 04-14-2012, 09:45 AM
 
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Ive learned to avoid crap places all together like McDonald's :P
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:23 PM
 
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Wow. This changed from a Mexican language forum to bashing Mexican immigrants in the US. While I am all down for picking on Mexico's version of Castellano, there is no need to pick on poor immigrants who are trying to make a living. A lot of the people who work at the McDonald's here in Houston don't speak much English, but still do a much better job at getting your order right than people born here whose first language is English. So they speak poorly. Big deal. The US is and always will be a nation of immigrants.
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Old 04-15-2012, 10:21 PM
 
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Are you sure she was from Mexico?

Not all Latinos living in the U.S. are Mexican.

Some second-generation immigrants do not know any Spanish.

Even if knew if you say "popote" some might not understand you because for many the correct word is "pajilla" of "pajita".

Maybe she was listening to another order for the headphones.

How easy is for you prejudge. Imagine some educated mexican from Mexico City call you ignorant because you don't speak spanish properly.

I don't have to speak Spanish, correctly or not, to order a MCD in my own country

Some second-generation immigrants do not know any Spanish

Well, what do they speak? and who said anything about being "ignorant?" all I wanted was a dang straw, why should I be a linguist?







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Old 04-15-2012, 10:22 PM
 
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Wow. This changed from a Mexican language forum to bashing Mexican immigrants in the US. While I am all down for picking on Mexico's version of Castellano, there is no need to pick on poor immigrants who are trying to make a living. A lot of the people who work at the McDonald's here in Houston don't speak much English, but still do a much better job at getting your order right than people born here whose first language is English. So they speak poorly. Big deal. The US is and always will be a nation of immigrants.

Those "poor immigrants trying to make a living" are behind those "poor Americans trying to make a living" or haven't you noticed its a major recession here
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Old 04-15-2012, 10:39 PM
 
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Wow. This changed from a Mexican language forum to bashing Mexican immigrants in the US. While I am all down for picking on Mexico's version of Castellano, there is no need to pick on poor immigrants who are trying to make a living. A lot of the people who work at the McDonald's here in Houston don't speak much English, but still do a much better job at getting your order right than people born here whose first language is English. So they speak poorly. Big deal. The US is and always will be a nation of immigrants.

Its not a nation of linguists!
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:47 AM
 
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I don't have to speak Spanish, correctly or not, to order a MCD in my own country

Some second-generation immigrants do not know any Spanish

Well, what do they speak? and who said anything about being "ignorant?" all I wanted was a dang straw, why should I be a linguist?





Yo make a big deal for something that happened to you in a MD in USA, totally irrelevant for this forum.

Go elsewhere to complain
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:06 PM
 
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Yo make a big deal for something that happened to you in a MD in USA, totally irrelevant for this forum.

Go elsewhere to complain
Yeah. That should be on the Maryland forum.
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:08 PM
 
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Those "poor immigrants trying to make a living" are behind those "poor Americans trying to make a living" or haven't you noticed its a major recession here
I don't like or dislike someone more or less depending on their nation of origin. Sorry.
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:11 PM
 
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I think Mexico speaks Castilian Spanish, but the "que pasa mamacita" crowd does not do the language justice.

I think that the Spanish taught in American universities is the kind that works for Latin America. I found that what I learned was more applicable in South America, where I had a fantastic time because of having learned Spanish in advance. It sounds like a cleaner brand of Spanish. Sorry, my opinion. Then, when one visits Spain, they learn it's "Tharagotha," and not Zaragosa.
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Old 04-18-2012, 06:22 PM
 
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Another interesting way to explain that the "th" sound of "z" and soft "c" in the Spanish of most of Spain is that a very similar situation exists in English.

In many older dialects of English, the "s" in words like "gives" or "shares" would be replaced by "th", with the accompanying dental fricative.

"The lord giveth and the lord taketh away"

No one would seriously try to argue that this was a "lisp".

"z" in Spanish is not realized the same as "z" in English. Same letter, different sound.
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