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Old 05-13-2009, 02:57 PM
 
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ok well hopefully you don't see my as trying to sound or be put-off as racist but, how come so many Mexican immigrants move to the U.S. as a means of a better life when they could move to a beautiful country country like Spain or Argentina where there chances of a higher quality of life will be greater? And those countries are spanish-speaking countries so alot of immigrants would not even need to learn english if they didn't want to. I'm really not trying to be bias or anything, but I find it real troubling that many families in Mexico that sometimes live in a dangerous city and choose to go to the U.S. for a better life somtimes can't because of our stupid goverment. It's not fair so why deal with it? I'm just someone who wanted to know input on that because I don't live there and I'm not really educated on the life of many people over there so I apologize if I come off as xenophobic or racist or whatever. Thanks.
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Old 05-13-2009, 03:35 PM
 
Location: So. of Rosarito, Baja, Mexico
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The term "better life" is a misused term. It's for the MONEY.

Mexico does not have enough industry for the large number of people...besides a large number of the population are barely educated and unskilled.

Thus we have all those unskilled (nonprofesional wise) coming across the border.

Have never been to Central America or South America but from what I've read (if true) the countries have a strict Immigration guideline. The US has been very lax in that respect. (controlling the borders)

I'm assuming that the OP has never been to those countries he/she refers too otherwise the said person would understand the economic status of each country.

Mexico is across the street (so to speak) and easy for many to cross however way they chose.

We do not have any problems with Canada (I was born there and now a US citizen). There is water on the East and West coast so Mexico covers the southern border with it's economic problems.

Get a US Passport...take a driving tour of Mexico...spend some serious time in the small towns and not the tourist spots. Stay among the locals and open your eyes for some education on the economics of the country.

You can learn a lot from those on C-D who have spent time ( YRS ) in Mexico as they would have a ton of knowledge to tell you. Based on their experiences a person can learn a lot instead of reading a newspaper or watching the boob tube or from some published book.

Steve (in Mexico 16 yrs)
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Old 05-13-2009, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Limestone,TN/Bucerias, Mexico
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Distance and/or an ocean might have a little something to do with it!
Mexico borders the US, whereas Spain and Argentina are thousands of miles away by car, bus, plane or boat..
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Old 05-15-2009, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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The easy answer is that those countries are a lot harder to sneak into illegally. And more expensive to keep going back to every time you get kicked out.

Also, Argentina's economy is no better than Mexico's. In fact, Mexico's per capita GDP is almost twice as high as Argentina's, and there are probably Argentinians trying to sneak into Mexico.
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Old 05-16-2009, 01:16 AM
 
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ok well hopefully you don't see my as trying to sound or be put-off as racist but, how come so many Mexican immigrants move to the U.S. as a means of a better life when they could move to a beautiful country country like Spain or Argentina where there chances of a higher quality of life will be greater? And those countries are spanish-speaking countries so alot of immigrants would not even need to learn english if they didn't want to. I'm really not trying to be bias or anything, but I find it real troubling that many families in Mexico that sometimes live in a dangerous city and choose to go to the U.S. for a better life somtimes can't because of our stupid goverment. It's not fair so why deal with it? I'm just someone who wanted to know input on that because I don't live there and I'm not really educated on the life of many people over there so I apologize if I come off as xenophobic or racist or whatever. Thanks.
First of all it's important to define "better life" and many Mexicans stay in Mexico and have a better life there. Contrary to popular opinion, Mexico has good schools, a public school system and all children can go to school. It has hospitals and medical clinics, some top-notch physicians, a national health care system that provides medical care on sliding fee scale.

Many Mexicans in the USA don't come from the class of people that believes much in education and so don't feel a need to learn English in the USA so language isn't an issue with them. Spain and Argentina have immigration standards and laws -- for most countries, immigration isn't a free for all, and most countries don't have welfare handouts as generous and easily obtained as the USA.
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Old 05-16-2009, 08:27 AM
 
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The OP must be kidding...

Mexico has better GDP than Argentina and Spain has a lot of immigration problems with south-americans and africans.... The easy way is head north.

Regards....
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Old 05-16-2009, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Limestone,TN/Bucerias, Mexico
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I'm not sure quite how to put this. *But* I find it an interesting scenario (balance?) that many Mexicanos head to the US to find better paying jobs - whereas many US folks head to Mexico to find cheaper and warmer, 2nd home properties.
(Not sure if that says anything at all. I just woke up this morning with that thought)
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Old 05-16-2009, 02:05 PM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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I'm not sure quite how to put this. *But* I find it an interesting scenario (balance?) that many Mexicanos head to the US to find better paying jobs - whereas many US folks head to Mexico to find cheaper and warmer, 2nd home properties.
(Not sure if that says anything at all. I just woke up this morning with that thought)
It is totally true, and I think it is a bit unfair at times, because Americans are generally well received in Mexico, because they have the means to stay in the country and live very well, and their presence brings skills and resources to the country.

While Mexicans who emigrate on the other hand lack education or skills and resources, so they are seen as leeches by some people in the usa and they face rejection.

Yet I also believe that these Mexicans who emigrate to the USA could find jobs in Mexico in bigger cities, but most go directly to the USA without thinking they could find those oportunities in their own country first.

I wish we lived in a fairer world sometimes.
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Old 05-16-2009, 03:47 PM
 
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It is totally true, and I think it is a bit unfair at times, because Americans are generally well received in Mexico, because they have the means to stay in the country and live very well, and their presence brings skills and resources to the country.

While Mexicans who emigrate on the other hand lack education or skills and resources, so they are seen as leeches by some people in the usa and they face rejection.

Yet I also believe that these Mexicans who emigrate to the USA could find jobs in Mexico in bigger cities, but most go directly to the USA without thinking they could find those oportunities in their own country first.

I wish we lived in a fairer world sometimes.
I am the descendant of slaves and I marched in the civil rights movement at the age of 4. Even at that age I was aware of the dangers and the possibility of death but I marched with pride alongside my grandmother and Dr. King, determined to fight for my rights as a human being and an American.

I applaud those of you who stay home and work hard to make your country a better place.

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Old 05-16-2009, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Limestone,TN/Bucerias, Mexico
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It is totally true, and I think it is a bit unfair at times, because Americans are generally well received in Mexico, because they have the means to stay in the country and live very well, and their presence brings skills and resources to the country.

While Mexicans who emigrate on the other hand lack education or skills and resources, so they are seen as leeches by some people in the usa and they face rejection.

Yet I also believe that these Mexicans who emigrate to the USA could find jobs in Mexico in bigger cities, but most go directly to the USA without thinking they could find those oportunities in their own country first.

I wish we lived in a fairer world sometimes.
Nice to see you back, Travelling Fella! And your words make great sense - but I also do believe I have never seen a harder working group of people than Mexicano's, both here and in the USA..I think too with all the changes Pres. Calderon is trying to initiate that before long there *will* be a brighter future in Mexico for Mexicanos!
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