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Old 07-24-2011, 11:27 AM
 
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So, we are in the middle of adopting a Haitian-American baby. My husband and I are white and want to raise our son within our culture and that of Haiti. How do we do that within the middle class? Efforts to find a church or other organization that would have a positive influence (safe, educated population, etc) are coming up short. Suggestions?
I think living next to Haitian neighbors and making your son attend a predominately Haitian majority school would be the best chance for your son to have a good Haitian influence. When I went to school in Boynton, half my school was Haitian kids which I never was exposed to before because all my life I have been moving around and never been around my own people much outside of my family. So it was great seeing and hearing all these students speaking Creole and interacting. I got reconnected to my culture and I was speaking the language better and more frequently so that was great. I also got my hair cut at Haitian barbers and eat at Haitian restaurants so I got to interact with Haitian people outside of my school and establish close relationships with them. And I think just doing these simple things would be a great way for your son to learn and have a positive Haitian influence while also embracing yours as well.
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Old 07-24-2011, 11:36 AM
 
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do you think they use skin lighteners? do you think people would use skin lighteners if they were available here? they seem to be all the rage in asia like among the filipinos, indonesians and such.
Well, my family is a breed of all different color and we do NOT bleach. And we are not mixed with spanish or anything either. My grandmother is light-skinned and my grandfather is darkskin. Some kids came out light and some dark. I know all the Haitian people I have ever met who had naturally light skin did NOT bleach. Haiti has people from white to caramel cream to cocoa to dark chocolate skin colors. It's normal to most Haitians. But I would be lying if I said some Haitians don't bleach. I've been to Haitian stores and seen lemon lightening creams on the shelf so obviously someone is buying them. I don't personally know any Haitian who bleaches though.

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Old 07-24-2011, 11:37 AM
 
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speaking my mind here and feel free to disagree with me but this does seem a little dangerous to me. i mean there are REASONS you are adopting him. there are cultural problems in haiti. cultural problems that led to you adopting him in the first place. there is a chance he could connect with people like him but also with the bad element here. imagine when he gets to his teenage rebellious stage and tells you to screw off. =/
you sound like good people. honorable, noble, admirable people. i just worry.
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Old 07-24-2011, 11:39 AM
 
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speaking my mind here and feel free to disagree with me but this does seem a little dangerous to me. i mean there are REASONS you are adopting him. there are cultural problems in haiti. cultural problems that led to you adopting him in the first place. there is a chance he could connect with people like him but also with the bad element here. imagine when he gets to his teenage rebellious stage and tells you to screw off. =/
you sound like good people. honorable, noble, admirable people. i just worry.
When they do that, that's their job as parents to take the belt and whoop that behind. If they don't, well good look to them.
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Old 07-24-2011, 11:39 AM
 
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Well, my family is a breed of all different colors. And we are not mixed with spanish or anything. My grandmother is light-skinned and my grandfather is darkskin. Some kids came out light and some dark. I know all the Haitian people I have ever met have had naturally light skin with no bleaching involved. From white to caramel cream to cocoa to dark chocolate skin colors. It's normal to most Haitians. But I would be lying if I said some Haitians don't bleach. I've been to Haitian stores and seen lemon lightening creams on the shelf so obviously someone is buying them. I don't personally know any Haitian who bleaches though.
it seems a shame to skin bleach. i'm attached but when i was in the philippines the girls who didnt bleach seemed so much prettier than the ones that did. it can wind up looking like vitiligo.
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Old 07-24-2011, 11:41 AM
 
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it seems a shame to skin bleach. i'm attached but when i was in the philippines the girls who didnt bleach seemed so much prettier than the ones that did. it can wind up looking like vitiligo.
Yes, I've always wondered why so many Asian women bleach their skin when they are beautiful the way they are. But I can't talk because there is an epidemic within the black community with bleaching.
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Old 07-24-2011, 01:53 PM
 
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My son has Hatian friends and most of them live in regular middle class neighborhoods in Fort Lauderdale, Hollywood, Hallandale, and Pembroke Pines. I don't think their neighborhoods are majority Haitan but many of them do belong to churches that are majority Haitian. That might be a good way to introduce a child to his Hatian heritage. Churches hold a special place with Hatian people.
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Old 07-24-2011, 01:56 PM
 
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If there are any I wish they would go and help their country. They are destroying our country (DR). Why couldn't DR border Spain or Italy.

Btw, I have never heard of skin lighteners being used in DR. I think it is common in African countries,Jamaica,and Haiti.
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Old 07-24-2011, 11:36 PM
 
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Your country was destroying itself way before Haitians migrated over there. And your country will further be destroyed by the coming tsunami that will hit.
Deforestation in Haiti vs. Dominican Republic

Dominica's per capita GDP is $9000, Haiti's is $700. The Dominicans have been vastly more successful at building a society, so it stands to reason that they would do a better job dealing with a natural disaster.
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Old 07-25-2011, 12:02 AM
 
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Deforestation in Haiti vs. Dominican Republic

Dominica's per capita GDP is $9000, Haiti's is $700. The Dominicans have been vastly more successful at building a society, so it stands to reason that they would do a better job dealing with a natural disaster.
Their more successful at dealing with a natural disaster even though they barely ever had one? Riiight. When is the last time the DR had a tsunami? My family was born and raised in Haiti and they almost never had earthquakes growing up. One or two at the most. Then this major earthquake hit and almost destroyed all of Port-au-Prince. You think the Dominicans have it better because they have more money? You will see that's not the case when God is involved.

There's a part of Jamaica called Port Royal. It was once one of the richest cities in the world. It was also notorious because of it's reputation as Sodom of the New World. Most of it's residents consisted of pirates, cutthroats, and prostitutes. All kinds of debauchery and immorality was all over the island. One day a huge earthquake struck and the whole city basically fell into the sea. Many people were killed. Days later with all the dead bodies, diseases spread and killed more people. Then they tried to rebuild the city, the island was struck with all kinds of things such as more earthquakes, hurricanes, fires, and etc. They were one of the richest cities until one day God struck them and they were destroyed. So money is really not a factor when God decides enough is enough.

All I know is, Haiti has already experienced his wrath. The DR is next according to Dr. Owour. The same Dominicans who keep talking mess (like el77) about Haitians should watch what they say and repent because their time may be coming. Dr. Owour predicted the Haiti quake, and alot of other earthquakes and every time he predicts them, they happen.

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