05-24-2011, 09:29 AM
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That video does seem routine...but there is something about seeing it on camera versus in person...which takes away the seriousness of getting cut off or tailgaited non stop.
Of course this kind aggressive driving is ubiquitious here and if people drove like this in any other city they would be promptly ticketed but here the cops turn a bling eye to it.
05-24-2011, 09:46 AM
Location: Lovely swampy humid Miami!
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I don't think the video really captured the severity of what was going down. You'd really need cameras all over your car to capture that. The iPhone camera also doesn't really give you much of a sensation of speed, so it doesn't look as bad as it actually was. The drivers captured on film weren't just one offs. They caught my attention way before in the rear view, weaving in & out and tailgating. With a better camera, this might have been more effective. Just take my word that any of those idiots on that clip could have easily caused a fatal accident and that the police are never anywhere to be found.
Forget the police. You're on your own.
05-24-2011, 09:48 AM
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You should listen to some calmer music when you're driving. Then you wouldn't be so stressed out.
05-24-2011, 09:55 AM
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Don't bother sending this to FHP, they love those kind of drivers.
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05-24-2011, 10:17 AM
Location: Miramar, FL
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All I saw was cars not using turn signals and changing lanes on solid white lines. And aside from the Porsche tailgating, no other vehicles appeared to be that close to other drivers when switching lanes.
I see worse driving to work each morning.
And anyone from NY would be the first to tell you that this video looks fine to them because there is no traffic.
05-24-2011, 02:49 PM
Location: Miami, FL
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What's so bad about this video? A few cars changing lanes without turn signals? In all the instances they had more than enough space and obviously knew what they were doing. That's not any worse than supposed "safe" drivers who go 50mph in a 55 and end up causing accidents when people try to pass them.
05-24-2011, 03:08 PM
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619inda305
I don't think the video really captured the severity of what was going down. You'd really need cameras all over your car to capture that. The iPhone camera also doesn't really give you much of a sensation of speed, so it doesn't look as bad as it actually was. The drivers captured on film weren't just one offs. They caught my attention way before in the rear view, weaving in & out and tailgating. With a better camera, this might have been more effective. Just take my word that any of those idiots on that clip could have easily caused a fatal accident and that the police are never anywhere to be found.
619inda, I actually thought about doing this before to show my friends in California what driving in Miami is like. But, since I need all 5 senses on full alert any time I am behind the wheel, I never dared try to capture what I see on film. I try to not even use my cell phone as to not distract myself. I'm glad you were successful, and managed to not get into an accident.
You're right, that footage doesn't capture what is going on all around you, so you really have to 'see it to believe it'. I had a cousin visiting last week and as soon as we were heading home from the airport, he said, "wow, people here are really in a rush!".
I know the locals aren't phased by it, but people from California don't drive like that. I drove in California for 15 years and when you see someone swerving and driving crazy, they stick out like a sore thumb. And it's usually a teenager who got to borrow mom's car and are just showing off. Most people drive respectfully because those tickets given out by the CHP are costly and so is your insurance when it goes up from the points you get. The CHP is all over the place, and when you least expect it, one will be behind you flashing his siren if you're speeding, or breaking a traffic law.
I'm trying to get used to the driving, but it's really hard for me to go 90 because everyone else is doing 90 (including trucks!) down the Turnpike or on I-95. I try to not stress out with the tailgaters, but it really makes me nervous to have someone on my bumper going 74 when I'm going 75.
Maybe Californians are considered lame because we don't speed up to wait at a red light, or cut in front of someone just because, slam on their horn because a driver took .0005 seconds to step on their gas when a light turned green, or swerve from lane to lane like a drunk driver, but I'll continue to drive like a Californian and err on the side of caution.
By the way, I drove cross country from California and I immediately felt the difference in driving when I entered Orlando and it got worse from there as I went further South.
I know, I know, Miami is the way it its, gotta take the good with the bad, but the insane driving really gets to me. That was my rant! I feel better now.
05-24-2011, 03:32 PM
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What's so bad about this video? A few cars changing lanes without turn signals? In all the instances they had more than enough space and obviously knew what they were doing. That's not any worse than supposed "safe" drivers who go 50mph in a 55 and end up causing accidents when people try to pass them.
It seems that some of you are arguing just for the sake of arguing. Like I attempted to explain in a previous entry, the camera on my phone doesn't really pick up the sensation of speed that well (you have to take my word on that and I usually average 55-70mph depending on traffic & weather conditions). The camera only picks up what it can see from being mounted on the dash. It can't pick up what I recall all of those idiots doing when they had previously caught my attention. The weaving in & out at high speed is particularly dangerous, as is the crossing of solid white lines, which are solid for a reason (because they're not meant to be crossed). Also a 2 ton pickup truck or SUV being driven in that manner is dangerous in itself. Such vehicles can flip over easily and if they hit you, you're dead or you'll wish for death.
To the Reptoid guy, I don't really buy it when you say San Diego is worse. I lived in CA for a while before I moved back here and you would not get away with that BS, not even in the desert. If you drive as you say you drive, you most likely lost your license long ago and are paying back a huge fine. CHP do not play.
05-24-2011, 03:38 PM
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Finally a voice of reason. Thanks! I wil say that to really capture the Miami driving experience, you need 2 good camcorders, one at the front and one at the rear. Better still, have a couple of friends do the camera work. The nighttime is the best time to catch the real lunacy. The phone camera isn't really capable of capturing it.
On the bright side, if you own a fast car and your driving skills are good, I guess it's a fun place to improve your skills. If you can drive in Miami, you can pretty much drive anywhere!!
But either have a fast car that can get your ass out of trouble if the need arises, or have a pickup truck or a hummer, as you're less likely to get messed with on the road.
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619inda, I actually thought about doing this before to show my friends in California what driving in Miami is like. But, since I need all 5 senses on full alert any time I am behind the wheel, I never dared try to capture what I see on film. I try to not even use my cell phone as to not distract myself. I'm glad you were successful, and managed to not get into an accident.
You're right, that footage doesn't capture what is going on all around you, so you really have to 'see it to believe it'. I had a cousin visiting last week and as soon as we were heading home from the airport, he said, "wow, people here are really in a rush!".
I know the locals aren't phased by it, but people from California don't drive like that. I drove in California for 15 years and when you see someone swerving and driving crazy, they stick out like a sore thumb. And it's usually a teenager who got to borrow mom's car and are just showing off. Most people drive respectfully because those tickets given out by the CHP are costly and so is your insurance when it goes up from the points you get. The CHP is all over the place, and when you least expect it, one will be behind you flashing his siren if you're speeding, or breaking a traffic law.
I'm trying to get used to the driving, but it's really hard for me to go 90 because everyone else is doing 90 (including trucks!) down the Turnpike or on I-95. I try to not stress out with the tailgaters, but it really makes me nervous to have someone on my bumper going 74 when I'm going 75.
Maybe Californians are considered lame because we don't speed up to wait at a red light, or cut in front of someone just because, slam on their horn because a driver took .0005 seconds to step on their gas when a light turned green, or swerve from lane to lane like a drunk driver, but I'll continue to drive like a Californian and err on the side of caution.
By the way, I drove cross country from California and I immediately felt the difference in driving when I entered Orlando and it got worse from there as I went further South.
I know, I know, Miami is the way it its, gotta take the good with the bad, but the insane driving really gets to me. That was my rant! I feel better now.
05-24-2011, 04:08 PM
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It seems that some of you are arguing just for the sake of arguing. Like I attempted to explain in a previous entry, the camera on my phone doesn't really pick up the sensation of speed that well (you have to take my word on that and I usually average 55-70mph depending on traffic & weather conditions). The camera only picks up what it can see from being mounted on the dash. It can't pick up what I recall all of those idiots doing when they had previously caught my attention. The weaving in & out at high speed is particularly dangerous, as is the crossing of solid white lines, which are solid for a reason (because they're not meant to be crossed). Also a 2 ton pickup truck or SUV being driven in that manner is dangerous in itself. Such vehicles can flip over easily and if they hit you, you're dead or you'll wish for death.
To the Reptoid guy, I don't really buy it when you say San Diego is worse. I lived in CA for a while before I moved back here and you would not get away with that BS, not even in the desert. If you drive as you say you drive, you most likely lost your license long ago and are paying back a huge fine. CHP do not play.
People who hate chaos and love to believe in the rule of law love to say things like that. I guess being frank and telling the absolute truth makes me a mythical creature. Ok fine. I'm a unicorn.
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Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)