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Old 07-28-2022, 03:41 PM
 
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It seems like the city has the right idea but is choosing the wrong place.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...age-plant.html
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Old 07-28-2022, 04:53 PM
 
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It seems like the city has the right idea but is choosing the wrong place.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...age-plant.html
The city hasn't chosen any place yet, right or wrong. In fact, nothing is even up for a vote yet. This is just one of five possible locations. The others are 2451 NW 7th Ave, property at corner of NW 6th Ave & 6th St., NW 71st St. & 5th Pl., and the MPA Lots under I-95 near the Miami Riverside Center and Jose Marti Park.

On a related matter, I always find it somewhat comical when people link to news sources in Europe to discuss items of local interest.
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Old 07-28-2022, 06:16 PM
 
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Mailonline is the British.....DailyMail is the American component....DailyMail has staff, offices, editors, reporters, etc the whole ball...in the USA

DailyMail is local in that sense...but in this internet age...none of that matters


"Miami commission rejects plan to move homeless to Virginia Key, but idea may return. Miami commissioners rejected a concept to create a temporary homeless shelter on Virginia Key, but several commissioners said they would be open to the concept after more analysis.2 hours ago"

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Old 07-28-2022, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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It’s possible the other source was listed since the Herald might have had a paywall??
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Old 07-28-2022, 06:58 PM
 
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^ exactly why I never link to the Herald....not everyone can read it
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Old 07-28-2022, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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I've often thought that people who do not want to engage in society, & contribute, should not be allowed to benefit from it, & live amongst us.

Remember the Pilgrims who tried to grow food in community gardens, and members of the community were supposed to volunteer their time working the gardens to cultivate the crops? Well, some started skipping out on their responsibilities, & the Pilgrims almost starved to death.

Then, they decided to give each family their own plat of area, within the fertile community garden, to grow their own food, & voila! Everyone prospered, & began trading the crops they grew.

I say lease the homeless people government land ($1/acre/yr) away from population centers to make their own way. Provide irrigation, seeds, & basic tools to grow food, & purify the water for drinking. Give them a tent, enough provisions to last until their crops could feed them, & guns/ammo to hunt for meat. If they succeeded, they'd be given the option to return to society, if they failed and tried to sneak back into society, they've be imprisoned for life, & work as prison laborers to offset the costs of their confinement. If they failed & faced starvation, they'd have to offer their labor to others who were succeeding on their leased lands.

Before you criticize my idea, offer your own. Or, explain why we should allow the homeless to destroy our society. The idea of America being a free society doesn't mean freeloaders must be permitted to exist amongst us. If you want to personally sponsor one of them, I'd be for that alternative.
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Old 07-29-2022, 06:42 AM
 
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I work with homeless people. Half of them are drug addicts. When night falls the homeless drug addicts hit the neighborhoods looking for anything they can steal to feed their habit. In fact, 50% of all crime is drug related whether it be possession or trying to get money to buy drugs. In the Jose Marti Park area there are numerous thefts, car break ins, stabbings and assaults every night. Desperate homeless drug addicts roam the streets til morning terrorizing the neighborhood.
This is why I believe Miami should enact a no camping ordinance like Key West, except for designated areas. These areas should be away from the neighborhoods to protect citizens from crime, but still be near public transportation and a store.
That is why I said the city has the right idea but wrong location.
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Old 07-29-2022, 07:38 AM
 
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Mailonline is the British.....DailyMail is the American component....DailyMail has staff, offices, editors, reporters, etc the whole ball...in the USA

DailyMail is local in that sense...but in this internet age...none of that matters


"Miami commission rejects plan to move homeless to Virginia Key, but idea may return. Miami commissioners rejected a concept to create a temporary homeless shelter on Virginia Key, but several commissioners said they would be open to the concept after more analysis.2 hours ago"
Interesting; I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.
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Old 07-29-2022, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Montreal/Miami/Toronto
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It seems like the city has the right idea but is choosing the wrong place.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...age-plant.html
Ah yes, the Miami (and American way)... Push homeless people out of the main city, create a homeless city away from the main city, just to say "look, we don't have homeless people". This creates a false sense of progress, while not tackling real issues. Considering how expensive Miami is and how a lot of people are one paycheque away from hitting the streets, it will be reminiscent of west coast cities, mark my words. Miami already falsifies homeless data to make it seem like there are fewer homeless people YoY, but once you factor those that are considered "invisible" homeless, it jumps dramatically.

And of course, the whole stigma of how homeless people are all violent and drug addicts, which is another cop out to not helping them. Any city that does something like this deserves the worst form of karma, period.
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Old 07-29-2022, 10:34 AM
 
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Mailonline is the British.....DailyMail is the American component....DailyMail has staff, offices, editors, reporters, etc the whole ball...in the USA

DailyMail is local in that sense...but in this internet age...none of that matters


"Miami commission rejects plan to move homeless to Virginia Key, but idea may return. Miami commissioners rejected a concept to create a temporary homeless shelter on Virginia Key, but several commissioners said they would be open to the concept after more analysis.2 hours ago"
I'd also add that Daily Mail, sadly, does much better reporting than any US new outlets. Fox, CNN, MSNBC, NewsNation? Vomit.
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