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Old 10-24-2014, 02:13 PM
 
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The biggest issue, and one many people don't seem to know or understand, is that UM is just a small, private school with very few students compared to other big name programs. FSU & Florida each have 40,000-50,000 students each year, plus hundreds of thousands of alumni who can attend games. The same holds true for schools like Ohio State, Michigan and many others. Little UM barely has 10,000 undergraduate students. (When I attended it was closer to 8,000.) Then you add in the fact that UM's alumni don't necessarily stay in the area (because they weren't local to begin with) so they aren't here to attend games.

As others have noted, another issue is that the stadium is 20+ miles from campus, so students can't just walk over from their dorms like students at many other universities. Not to mention the fact that there are many other things to do in Miami on a Saturday afternoon or evening. In college towns such as those throughout the SEC or Big 10, life in the city revolves around the university. The game of the week is the event of the week. That's just not the case here. I've been going to UM games on and off for 50 years (Since George Mira Sr. was the QB) and they've always had an attendance problem - in good times and bad. Even during their National Championship years, they would only sell out games in advance for marquee opponents. Absent the construction of a smaller on campus stadium (which the Coral gables neighborhood would never allow), I really don't anything changing in the foreseeable future.
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Old 10-24-2014, 04:00 PM
 
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I remember back in the late eighties when miami was a real college Football power house, I would go to the
games in the Orange Bowl and they didn't sell out back then as well. So now its probably worse and them
playing in Miami Gardens doesn't help much either.
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Old 10-25-2014, 01:00 PM
 
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Why Sun Life Stadium Just Isn't Working for Miami's Football Program - State of The U
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Old 10-25-2014, 01:16 PM
 
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The stadium is far from Coral Gables. A lot do watch from places like the Ale House or from home.
That is not even the problem. Students make up only a fraction of the stadium. It's more that they suck donkey balls. South FL isn't a sport loyalty town. If you suck, they don't go to the games period. People used to come all the way from Palm Beach to the Orange Bowl when they were good. Plus with the ever rising Hispanic population and other races flying out of Miami, you won't see that big support because most enjoy soccer.
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Old 11-04-2014, 01:19 PM
 
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The biggest issue, and one many people don't seem to know or understand, is that UM is just a small, private school with very few students compared to other big name programs. FSU & Florida each have 40,000-50,000 students each year, plus hundreds of thousands of alumni who can attend games. The same holds true for schools like Ohio State, Michigan and many others. Little UM barely has 10,000 undergraduate students. (When I attended it was closer to 8,000.) Then you add in the fact that UM's alumni don't necessarily stay in the area (because they weren't local to begin with) so they aren't here to attend games.

As others have noted, another issue is that the stadium is 20+ miles from campus, so students can't just walk over from their dorms like students at many other universities. Not to mention the fact that there are many other things to do in Miami on a Saturday afternoon or evening. In college towns such as those throughout the SEC or Big 10, life in the city revolves around the university. The game of the week is the event of the week. That's just not the case here. I've been going to UM games on and off for 50 years (Since George Mira Sr. was the QB) and they've always had an attendance problem - in good times and bad. Even during their National Championship years, they would only sell out games in advance for marquee opponents. Absent the construction of a smaller on campus stadium (which the Coral gables neighborhood would never allow), I really don't anything changing in the foreseeable future.
What is written above is all true. Also, if it wasn't for the Dolphins the team would have never played in a large venue. Perhaps years ago they could have built a small stadium on campus like FIU or FAU but they likely would have played somewhere else off campus like Tropical Park and then they likely would have never attracted the local talent in the 80s to garner national championships and attention and would have remained a small program. FIU has more students than FSU or UF but has never broke into the bigtime. Perhaps if they had played in the Dolphin's stadium for the last 40 years, it would have been them to take the national stage and with their larger fan base that largely remains in Miami they would have higher attendance. Either way, playing in the Dolphin's stadium helped UM and also continues to hurt them.
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Old 11-04-2014, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Heartland Florida
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They were sold out so the Orange Bowl could be demolished for the White Elephant. Good riddance, students can find better things to do that waste time watching kids chase a ball around.
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Old 11-04-2014, 01:45 PM
 
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They were sold out so the Orange Bowl could be demolished for the White Elephant. Good riddance, students can find better things to do that waste time watching kids chase a ball around.
Lot more manly than knocking pins over in an alley, plus there are scholarships to colleges those kids(as you call it) are granted, don't see many for knocking little pinnies over.
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Old 11-04-2014, 02:08 PM
 
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In addition to the distance factor, I also think Sun Life Stadium has a very poor atmosphere for college football. It was built to accommodate baseball and soccer as well as football, and the seats along the sidelines are a long way from the field. It's not like FSU and UF where the crowd is right on top of the action. For that matter, it's not a good atmosphere for the NFL, either -- the Dolphins have never had much of a home-field advantage since moving from the Orange Bowl in the late '80s. There are 20,000 empty seats for almost Dolphin game, and half the fans who do show up are cheering for the other team if the opponent is from the Northeast or Midwest.

And let's face it -- fans in this market only support big winners. If the Canes were undefeated and in contention for the national title, attendance would be considerably better, but 7-5 and 8-4 seasons just don't cut it.
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Old 11-04-2014, 08:27 PM
 
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In addition to the distance factor, I also think Sun Life Stadium has a very poor atmosphere for college football. It was built to accommodate baseball and soccer as well as football, and the seats along the sidelines are a long way from the field. It's not like FSU and UF where the crowd is right on top of the action. For that matter, it's not a good atmosphere for the NFL, either -- the Dolphins have never had much of a home-field advantage since moving from the Orange Bowl in the late '80s. There are 20,000 empty seats for almost Dolphin game, and half the fans who do show up are cheering for the other team if the opponent is from the Northeast or Midwest.

And let's face it -- fans in this market only support big winners. If the Canes were undefeated and in contention for the national title, attendance would be considerably better, but 7-5 and 8-4 seasons just don't cut it.

The only thing fans in Miami support is their own pingas. Screw everything else.
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Old 11-04-2014, 09:52 PM
 
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Lot more manly than knocking pins over in an alley, plus there are scholarships to colleges those kids(as you call it) are granted, don't see many for knocking little pinnies over.
The scholarships are a joke and just an excuse/front. Most only know how to play with a ball. They are practically given their diplomas and never do anything with them. If the are not able to get into the major leagues after college they are screwed because the diploma will not be something they will use to fall back on. Perhaps because they never learned anything in school other than perfecting their game.

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The only thing fans in Miami support is their own pingas. Screw everything else.
Sad but true. That is how it is.
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