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Old 12-18-2014, 10:36 PM
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...... we may see Cubans in Miami returning to Cuba.
This is the least likely of all outcomes, though no doubt a few will. If travel restrictions are eased, it will lead to another flood from Cuba that will dwarf 1980.
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Old 12-19-2014, 05:23 AM
 
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Wasn't nice to see Rubio, Ros-lehtinen, the Diaz-Balarts and the many others on TV. All of them living off the rhetoric of Cuba and the embargo speaking against what the president just announced. Isn't nice to see the hypocrisy shown again and again but these people. The real reason they were all on TV is not that they care or give a darn about Cuba or the Cuban people. The real reason is that they are scared to death about what they would talk about if any positive change would to happen in Cuba. It amazes me every single day the hypocrisy of these people. They all support trade with China, but yet they are against anything to do with Cuba. Even if changes mean positive life altering changes for the people in the island. Of course no one would hear about China, because after all who cares about China, even though they are a communist country. And of course, both Rubio and Ross-lehtinen had staff flown to China for vacationing. How ironic they would send their staff to another communist country but not Cuba. I can't stand these people.
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Old 12-19-2014, 05:32 AM
 
Location: Miami/NYC
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the Mayor is gonna fight against any consulate. Watch them push it and itll be fortified like our Embassy in Baghdad
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Old 12-19-2014, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Heartland Florida
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Wasn't nice to see Rubio, Ros-lehtinen, the Diaz-Balarts and the many others on TV. All of them living off the rhetoric of Cuba and the embargo speaking against what the president just announced. Isn't nice to see the hypocrisy shown again and again but these people. The real reason they were all on TV is not that they care or give a darn about Cuba or the Cuban people. The real reason is that they are scared to death about what they would talk about if any positive change would to happen in Cuba. It amazes me every single day the hypocrisy of these people. They all support trade with China, but yet they are against anything to do with Cuba. Even if changes mean positive life altering changes for the people in the island. Of course no one would hear about China, because after all who cares about China, even though they are a communist country. And of course, both Rubio and Ross-lehtinen had staff flown to China for vacationing. How ironic they would send their staff to another communist country but not Cuba. I can't stand these people.
Rubio makes me sick. He talks freedom and votes with the fascists every time. Yes free Cuba and saddle the US with torture and indefinite detention through the NDAA. The other puppets play the same anti-Castro rhetoric despite the fact Fidel died while in power.
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Old 12-19-2014, 09:03 PM
 
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Love it; sell billions of dollars worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia, no problem; have diplomatic relations and the ease of an idiotic embargo with Cuba, the sky is falling.

They love talking up the Cuban regime with its human rights abuses, blah blah, as the reason for the embargo, yet they do not address the other brutal regimes the US does trade with and have open diplomatic relations with.

The entire premises of not having diplomatic relations is idiotic, like to eight year olds not talking to each other, hardly the actions of adults.

The embargo did not work, it did not topple the regime, time to change the strategy. I have no idea why the US is even concerned with who is in charge of Cuba, it is not our concern. The US needs to end the embargo and restore all diplomatic ties immediately.
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Old 12-20-2014, 09:55 AM
 
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Apples and oranges.
Could you elaborate because I fail to see your point that ending the embargo will not lead to Cubans being able to leave the country when Chinese and Vietnamese people have been able to leave their countries after their countries began doing trade with other nations including the U.S.?
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Old 12-20-2014, 10:07 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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What do you think, will we see even more Cuban immigrants in the Miami area now that diplomacy is in the process of being restored? What other benefits or drawbacks will we see? Do you believe this is will turn out to be a net positive or negative for the Miami area?
At this point, IMO, that's anyone's guess.
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Old 12-20-2014, 10:15 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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as things normalize in Cuba, during the next few years...... we may see Cubans in Miami returning to Cuba.
I don't know, IMO it's been too long since the Cuban Adjustment Act (1966) was put in place and they began immigrating en masse to the US, two generations of Cuban Americans born in the US who know only what their parents/grandparents tell them about Cuba, and who consider themselves Cuban-Americans and the USA their home. There may be older Cubans who would love to fulfill their dreams of returning to Cuba, and some may do so, but they won't find it anything like they left it, and IMO they wouldn't get back what the Castro government seized from them. I'd ask some of those Cubans what they think about it.

I'd imagine a lot of Cuban-Americans would visit Cuba as often as they could, especially if they still have family there, and to satisfy their curiosity to see it first hand.
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Old 12-20-2014, 10:17 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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Wasn't nice to see Rubio, Ros-lehtinen, the Diaz-Balarts and the many others on TV. All of them living off the rhetoric of Cuba and the embargo speaking against what the president just announced. Isn't nice to see the hypocrisy shown again and again but these people. The real reason they were all on TV is not that they care or give a darn about Cuba or the Cuban people. The real reason is that they are scared to death about what they would talk about if any positive change would to happen in Cuba. It amazes me every single day the hypocrisy of these people. They all support trade with China, but yet they are against anything to do with Cuba. Even if changes mean positive life altering changes for the people in the island. Of course no one would hear about China, because after all who cares about China, even though they are a communist country. And of course, both Rubio and Ross-lehtinen had staff flown to China for vacationing. How ironic they would send their staff to another communist country but not Cuba. I can't stand these people.
Don't you think maybe they were just showing off for their GOP Cuban base there in south Florida?
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Old 12-20-2014, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Miami FL
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It's easy to predict: the prolegomenon of a debacle. For one side we'll have a flock of Cubans disembarking since the restrictions will be smoothed having the same ordeal as in the 80's. On the other hand, we'll have illegals granted taking the scarce people jobs, welfare resources and others.
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