How would Miami be different today if the McDuffie riots and Mariel had never occurred? (bankrupt, living)
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Dade County has offically become known as the most corrupt city in America...this is one culture you dont want to come to your town.
Please brush up on your history before you spew your ignorant racist garbage that is sooo misinformed. Miami was and has always been corrupt since way before the first cuban ever stepped foot here. The Miami Beach police department was extremley corrupt in the 50's and 60's. Also how many cubans live in Chicago presntly? As corrupt as Miami is, even we have alot of catching up to Chicago when it comes to corrupt politicians. Also ask any American that lived here in the 60's if the Cubans helped make Miami a better place and you will be surprised by their answer. The new breed of Cubans on the other hand is another story, they have been oppressed under Castro for so long they dont even remeber how cuba used to be when it was the most thriving Island in the carribean. That island shouldnt even be called cuba anymore, they should change their name to the republic of castro.
I've lived here since 1951. I do not think that the Cubans and their culture have made Miami a better place.
That depends how you measure it, but Miami was corrupt long before the Cuban influx. It's always been a comfortable place for mobsters and a friendly place for organized crime. I am sure it would have been ground zero for the cocaine trade in the 70's and 80's even if there were no immigration in the first place. The history of government and police corruption is legion.
The Cuban cronyism that replaced redneck cronyism was no great improvement. At the end of the day, it was pretty much the same thing.
As much as I dislike county and Miami political leadership, I'll admit it's more professional.
The original Cubans that fled Cuba as political refugees during the Castro revolution never had any intention to stay in Miami. They naivley believed that the US gov. would intervene and help liberate Cuba from the communist dictatorship of Fidel Castro. If JFK would of kept his promise to aid the Cubans during the bay of pigs invasion, Miami would probably still be an American majority city. Most of my family from that era initally hated Miami at that time saying it was a one cow hick town and a swamp. Remember Havana at this time was considered a vibrant, modern and cosmopolitan city, sort of what Miami is today. They had some of the fanciest hotel/clubs and were a major importer of Cadillacs, Fords and Harleys. The first wave of Cubans to Miami were educated doctors and lawyers and such and were forced to start over as minimum wage workers in factorys because of the language barrier. So instead of blaming the cubans for the so called downfall of Miami, how about pointing the finger at our own government for failing to help our neighbors in need. i guess oil is more valuable than tobbacco.
Last edited by muscleman305; 03-22-2009 at 07:04 PM..
Please brush up on your history before you spew your ignorant racist garbage that is sooo misinformed. Miami was and has always been corrupt since way before the first cuban ever stepped foot here. The Miami Beach police department was extremley corrupt in the 50's and 60's. Also how many cubans live in Chicago presntly? As corrupt as Miami is, even we have alot of catching up to Chicago when it comes to corrupt politicians. Also ask any American that lived here in the 60's if the Cubans helped make Miami a better place and you will be surprised by their answer. The new breed of Cubans on the other hand is another story, they have been oppressed under Castro for so long they dont even remeber how cuba used to be when it was the most thriving Island in the carribean. That island shouldnt even be called cuba anymore, they should change their name to the republic of castro.
With Chicago's corrupt Democratic machine, especially in the 1950's and 1960's, THINGS GOT DONE. 500+ miles of highway were built within Chicago's city limits under Daily Sr. Public transportation was built as well as parks, bridges, the nation's largest airport, a water treatment plant, and subway infrastructure.
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Now, what has been accomplished since 1980 under Miami's corrupt, "bilingual", "multicultural" Cuban Junta?
Condos?
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With Chicago's corrupt Democratic machine, especially in the 1950's and 1960's, THINGS GOT DONE. 500+ miles of highway were built within Chicago's city limits under Daily Sr. Public transportation was built as well as parks, bridges, the nation's largest airport, a water treatment plant, and subway infrastructure.
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Now, what has been accomplished since 1980 under Miami's corrupt, "bilingual", "multicultural" Cuban Junta?
Condos?
In the 50's and 60's Chicago and Miami weren't even comparable in terms of size, population, age and wealth. (and it still isn't) Thats not even a fair comparison. There weren't even any Cubans in government at that time. It's a shame we have so many condos but thats a byproduct of being a tourism based economy. Compare Hawaii with us or some other state who's majority of revenue comes from tourists. Also hurricanes have always been a major hurdle in getting major corporations to relocate into our state, on top of a dozen other things. But the fact still stands you guys are still the Corruption champs, at least our billingual baseball team has won 2 championships in less than 15 years with the smallest budget in baseball, how long did it take the white sox and how long have the cubs been a franchise lol. No hard feelings bud.
Last edited by muscleman305; 03-22-2009 at 08:14 PM..
So instead of blaming the cubans for the so called downfall of Miami, how about pointing the finger at our own government for failing to help our neighbors in need. i guess oil is more valuable than tobbacco.
Oil is a lot more valuable than tobacco. It was true 50 years ago as well. You'd think people would have been able to figure that out.
You're blaming the U.S. for not bailing out Cuba, even as all the people who had a problem with their new government were fleeing like rats from a sinking ship? Are you saying that the Cubans who fled to Miami, New York, and New Jersey were completely impotent? If the Cubans who were most aggrieved wouldn't stay and fight (beyond a relatively small number of dissidents), that the U.S. should have done the fighting for you?
Instead of trying to invade from the outside, the Cuban Bay of Pigs guerillas should have stayed in Cuba in the first place and fought.
I've heard otherwise rational Cubans say that Castro killed millions, and would have killed millions more. They handed him the power by building a mythology around him, as if he were an omnipotent god.
How many people did it take to take over Cuba? A couple of dozen? How many would it have required to take Cuba back?
Oil is a lot more valuable than tobacco. It was true 50 years ago as well. You'd think people would have been able to figure that out.
You're blaming the U.S. for not bailing out Cuba, even as all the people who had a problem with their new government were fleeing like rats from a sinking ship? Are you saying that the Cubans who fled to Miami, New York, and New Jersey were completely impotent? If the Cubans who were most aggrieved wouldn't stay and fight (beyond a relatively small number of dissidents), that the U.S. should have done the fighting for you?
Instead of trying to invade from the outside, the Cuban Bay of Pigs guerillas should have stayed in Cuba in the first place and fought.
I've heard otherwise rational Cubans say that Castro killed millions, and would have killed millions more. They handed him the power by building a mythology around him, as if he were an omnipotent god.
How many people did it take to take over Cuba? A couple of dozen? How many would it have required to take Cuba back?
It's a very complicated thing and very hard for someone who didn't experience it to understand. For example look at what Hugo Chavez is currently doing, a very different example but eerily similar in many ways. Only thing I can tell u is to do your research on it, but unfortuntaly most people don't have the time, patience or motivation to learn the true facts about it. Fortunatly for me i was schooled on it by my family that lived thru it. Heres another scenario, imagine if we would of left europe to fend for itslef in world war 2 and allowed hitler to occupy half of Europe.
Also remeber JFK promised the cubans at the bay of pigs support and bascially sent them to their deaths when he betrayed them.
It's a very complicated thing and very hard for someone who didn't experience it to understand. For example look at what Hugo Chavez is currently doing, a very different example but eerily similar in many ways. Only thing I can tell u is to do your research on it, but unfortuntaly most people don't have the time, patience or motivation to learn the true facts about it. Fortunatly for me i was schooled on it by my family that lived thru it. Also heres another scenario, imagine if we would of left europe to fend for itslef in world war 2 and allowed hitler to occupy half of Europe.
Different kettle of fish...Hitler was a threat to everyone. Do you honestly think he'd have stopped at just Europe?
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