were Outta Here! (Miami: how much, food, area)

[mikealialex]

Not a big deal, but it was noticeable. I called 311 today to have bulk trash picked up. The recording said "for English, stay on the line, for Spanish, marque numero dos". In Miami, it would be "for English, press 1, para Espanol, permanezca en la línea (stay on the line). LOL!

[valicky]

My sil's trick for the rudeness in France is not to let them know she's American. She speaks Spanish fluently and that seems to make the French much friendlier!

[♥♥PRINC3Ss♥♥]

Originally Posted by Rock Newman

I never felt the frustration in Weston , that I have in Hialeah , Kendall or Westchester

I speak Spanish and I also experienced frustration in Westchester to the point that I walked out of a Publix once and said to myself that I would never go to Westchester ever again.

I have gone to Westchester many times since then without a problem. I understand some cultures more now, and I know that's the way the speak, and not that they are being rude. Italians and people from Spain are the same way. They can sound like the rudest people, but people from Spain are probably the nicest people I have met in my life.

[Leovigildo]

Originally Posted by lolitazz

I speak Spanish and I also experienced frustration in Westchester to the point that I walked out of a Publix once and said to myself that I would never go to Westchester ever again.

I have gone to Westchester many times since then without a problem. I understand some cultures more now, and I know that's the way the speak, and not that they are being rude. Italians and people from Spain are the same way. They can sound like the rudest people, but people from Spain are probably the nicest people I have met in my life.

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Lolita

Of course, two different cultures. What appears rude to some cultures is quite normal for other cultures. Latin cultures, Spain, France, Italy, might look very rude for Anglo Saxon cultures.

There are also many Anglos that could pass for Hispanics, and in Miami they won't try to speak English to you unless you look like Lundgren, or the typical Germanic steorotype.

Right now, Havana is a very rude place even if you have hard currency, not so 5 or 6 years ago, because employees are all state employees, they don't care, they only want to cheat you or shortchange you, so I guess that that "mood" is travelling north.

[Leovigildo]

Originally Posted by valicky

My sil's trick for the rudeness in France is not to let them know she's American. She speaks Spanish fluently and that seems to make the French much friendlier!

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Valicky

When you speak Spanish in France, many times they say they don't understand even if they are Spanish or Spanish descendant themselves. It's part of their "chauvinism". They love to see tourists speaking French gibberish just to laugh at them.

They also love English-speaking tourists trying to remember their HS French for a while, to answer them in perfect English after five minutes.

[somebodymiami]

Originally Posted by Leovigildo

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Lolita

Of course, two different cultures. What appears rude to some cultures is quite normal for other cultures. Latin cultures, Spain, France, Italy, might look very rude for Anglo Saxon cultures.

There are also many Anglos that could pass for Hispanics, and in Miami they won't try to speak English to you unless you look like Lundgren, or the typical Germanic steorotype.

Right now, Havana is a very rude place even if you have hard currency, not so 5 or 6 years ago, because employees are all state employees, they don't care, they only want to cheat you or shortchange you, so I guess that that "mood" is travelling north.

wrong, im German green eyed blonde looking skinhead. and people still approach me in Spanish, and when i tell them im german there like OH i though you were cuban...................

[amcjap]

FYI...I am Cuban from NJ moved to the Triangle of NC two years ago. I have a Cuban meet-up group with 150 families. Last week we had a very successful Caribbean festival with the Puerto Rican and Domincan groups. The area is diverse (people from all over the world) very educated (highest PHD concentration in the US) and very friendly. It was very well attended by the locals. Haven't experienced any racism. Almost all the cubans are from Miami and have adapted really well. It's beautiful and the weather is great.

btw, the Miami Cubans in NC seem to be running from Miami and in no way trying to recreate it...

[cuba libre]

Originally Posted by amcjap

Last week we had a very successful Caribbean festival with the Puerto Rican and Domincan groups. The area is diverse (people from all over the world) very educated (highest PHD concentration in the US) and very friendly.

I bet it would be interesting to have been a fly on the wall at that party! There is nothing sweeter than assimilation and voluntarily elevating American culture above the one your parents sought to escape. For many, it is a big step. You couldn't do that here in Miami Moderator cut: flaming.

[amcjap]

I must say I was a little concerned about what to expect from our groups and the locals. Instead I was pleasantly surprised at how nice the cultures were displayed and by the local parents coming in with children of all ages and showing them items from different countries, asking questions and enjoying espresso and the music. All this was new to me as well, coming from NY/NJ. I hope it stays like this.

[CLTKing]

Originally Posted by amcjap

FYI...I am Cuban from NJ moved to the Triangle of NC two years ago. I have a Cuban meet-up group with 150 families. Last week we had a very successful Caribbean festival with the Puerto Rican and Domincan groups. The area is diverse (people from all over the world) very educated (highest PHD concentration in the US) and very friendly. It was very well attended by the locals. Haven't experienced any racism. Almost all the cubans are from Miami and have adapted really well. It's beautiful and the weather is great.

btw, the Miami Cubans in NC seem to be running from Miami and in no way trying to recreate it...

I totally agree. We the Cubans running away from Miami are in no hope of recreating little Havana up here. If that's what you have in mind, please stay down in FL.