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Old 06-03-2008, 01:14 PM
 
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I'm as 'gringo' as they come and had 2 instances in 12 years where I was somewhere in Miami that I COULDN'T find someone to speak English and a couple more where the person at the counter/helping me had to call someone else over.
(I can get by in Spanish usually, but sometimes it's just too complicated.)

Everyone of these families will be speaking mostly English in 2 generations. It's just the way it is.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Heartland Florida
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Very true. Hispanics made Miami what it is today.
That is an insult to "Hispanics". Miami is an example of how NOT to manage a city. It never improves, because the lifestyle has degraded exponentially since the 1970's. This is not a language issue, it is a culture of corruption, independant of race or nationality.
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:52 PM
 
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That is an insult to "Hispanics". Miami is an example of how NOT to manage a city. It never improves, because the lifestyle has degraded exponentially since the 1970's. This is not a language issue, it is a culture of corruption, independant of race or nationality.
Whooa ..... good and accurate post !!!
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Old 06-04-2008, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Lots of sun and palm trees with occasional hurricane :)
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Soooooooooo

How's UM's rec hall doing today?
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Old 06-04-2008, 01:55 PM
 
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I'm as 'gringo' as they come and had 2 instances in 12 years where I was somewhere in Miami that I COULDN'T find someone to speak English and a couple more where the person at the counter/helping me had to call someone else over.
(I can get by in Spanish usually, but sometimes it's just too complicated.)

Everyone of these families will be speaking mostly English in 2 generations. It's just the way it is.
You're right, kids always learn English. But in most cases their parents and especially their grandparents never learn it. I am curious, just how did you manage to get stuck only twice in 12 years in Miami? Didn't you say that you spoke Spanish. I am a gringo as well, but there was never a time when I couldn't get by in Spanish; I have a wicked Cuban accent. However, communicating with IGNORANT people who speak only Spanish can sometimes be a pain in the ass. Communicating in Spanish with someone who is NOT ignorant is a piece of cake. Also, the little attitude thing that latin women give white women in Miami when they don't know Spanish is real!!! But it also applies to lain males as well!!! I hate the attitude thing, I feel like saying go home!!!I just have one question. How can you 'quantify' specifically '2' times in the last twelve years... Do you have a journal where you mark this stuff down?
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Old 06-04-2008, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Mile High City
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Cane Fan-I haven't been hiding anywhere except Pinecrest for 32 years. I just moved to Charlotte 3 months ago.

Yes, hopefully Canes can turn it around this year. I will be flying a UM flag from the house!!! GO CANES

I love that picture of the van. Too bad it wasn't a miami dade license plate!!
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Old 06-05-2008, 02:24 PM
 
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Cane Fan-I haven't been hiding anywhere except Pinecrest for 32 years. I just moved to Charlotte 3 months ago.

Yes, hopefully Canes can turn it around this year. I will be flying a UM flag from the house!!! GO CANES

I love that picture of the van. Too bad it wasn't a miami dade license plate!!
What picture? They stopped putting 'Dade' on the license plates years ago...
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Old 06-05-2008, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Heartland Florida
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Soooooooooo

How's UM's rec hall doing today?
It's a worthless pile of junk now. The bowling lanes are gone, the pool tables have been all but removed. It's just a third-rate "cafe" style hangout with a stupid store. Unbelievable loss of what was once a unique place. However, some of the bowling seating lives on at my place.
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Old 06-05-2008, 05:40 PM
 
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I just have one question. How can you 'quantify' specifically '2' times in the last twelve years... Do you have a journal where you mark this stuff down?
Once in a small hardware store in CGables where the grandfather (I found out later) was "watching" the store alone and I needed some keys made.
Once in Westchester where I needed to buy oil at a gas station and didn't know the word for oil.

Those are the only 2 times that I can remember not being able to get by in my broken, "tarzan" Spanish ("Un cortadito por favor" is a favorite) or when they couldn't get someone who spoke English to help me.
I'm sure I've run into folks who didn't understand my English or broken Spanish and I know I've had instances when I didn't fully understand whoever was helping me (sorry those Cuban accents drive me crazy), but it hasn't ever been an actual problem (like I had to come back or go somewhere else) except in those 2 instances that I can remember.
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Old 06-05-2008, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Lots of sun and palm trees with occasional hurricane :)
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Once in a small hardware store in CGables where the grandfather (I found out later) was "watching" the store alone and I needed some keys made.
Once in Westchester where I needed to buy oil at a gas station and didn't know the word for oil.

Those are the only 2 times that I can remember not being able to get by in my broken, "tarzan" Spanish ("Un cortadito por favor" is a favorite) or when they couldn't get someone who spoke English to help me.
I'm sure I've run into folks who didn't understand my English or broken Spanish and I know I've had instances when I didn't fully understand whoever was helping me (sorry those Cuban accents drive me crazy), but it hasn't ever been an actual problem (like I had to come back or go somewhere else) except in those 2 instances that I can remember.
Cuban accents drive you crazy? Just tell them to slow down. But if that drives you crazy, I can just imagine what Mexican or Argentinian or Puerto Rican can do to you.
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