Why is up with Black Miami (Hialeah, Carol City: fit in, crime, neighborhoods)

[DCkid]

Originally Posted by traveler guy

I agreed with you with the top half but this bottom half is a little misguided.
Cubans probably had a softer road thorough the struggles of America but not all latin cultures had it easy and in the mexican culture they had way worst then any race in America besides Native Americans. back in the 60's/50's there were parts of cities left for the mexicans in Texas. Well in SA the west was left for them to survive on there own quiet literarily and left them there with no sewage system, no running water, no paved roads, no electricity.
In fact the conditions of living there were so bad that the Peace Corp. stationed there for training cause it pictured what a 3rd world country would be like. Let me remind you this is in a American city and the whole city wasn't like that just the west side of it were the mexicans lived.

Also the Latin America struggle is the exact same problem just turned up 100X's what you see in Black America. Like Mexico for and example the still discriminate based on race. a dark skinned or native american decent mexican has a harder struggle of life then a light skinned mexican in Mexico.

I think I was more focusing on the struggles between Cuban Americans vs. African Americans in Miami more so than other Latin American Countries. It didn't come out that way though. A lot of Cuban Amerians bloat about how they can come from another country and outperform African Americans who are born and raised in the US. And how African Americans, do nothing but complain about discrimination and what not. But they don't understand the history behind the current struggles and angers in the African American community and its frustrating to hear them talk about it. Its a major factor in the horrible relationships that exist between lower class blacks and cubans.

But I definately understand the struggle many Latin American countries go through. I know there is still a lot of discrimination among dark skinned dominicans and brazilians as well in there respective countries. But don't know about 100X worse though.

But thank you for that bit of information. I learned something. lol

[Wild Style]

Originally Posted by traveler guy

I agreed with you with the top half but this bottom half is a little misguided.
Cubans probably had a softer road thorough the struggles of America but not all latin cultures had it easy and in the mexican culture they had way worst then any race in America besides Native Americans. back in the 60's/50's there were parts of cities left for the mexicans in Texas. Well in SA the west was left for them to survive on there own quiet literarily and left them there with no sewage system, no running water, no paved roads, no electricity.
In fact the conditions of living there were so bad that the Peace Corp. stationed there for training cause it pictured what a 3rd world country would be like. Let me remind you this is in a American city and the whole city wasn't like that just the west side of it were the mexicans lived.

Also the Latin America struggle is the exact same problem just turned up 100X's what you see in Black America. Like Mexico for and example the still discriminate based on race. a dark skinned or native american decent mexican has a harder struggle of life then a light skinned mexican in Mexico.

you can't be serious? You are going to compare the plight of Mexican Americans to a group of people who were slaves, hung from trees up till 50 yrs ago and has had all manner of hell unleashed on them. Are you really serious right now?

[deep-blue-water]

up north there would always be a rich white guys saying "whats up with blacks and latinos ...."

now I'm in the south and its a rich Cuban guy ...

[Luiso]

Originally Posted by socrates

Head start?

I don't know if you're familiar with American history but when the first wave of Cubans came, Jim crow laws were still in full effect. These laws stripped blacks of power, education and almost any realistic chance to live a normal life. Its over now, but a very large % of todays black population lived through that period and its effects still linger on

Meanwhile, Cuban immigrants were given assistance from the government and charities. The period of state racism still lingers because nothing was ever done to heal it. Blacks, as a direct result of slavery and segregation still live in the most run down poor areas of cities. These areas are ignored by the government and given inadequate schools, hospitals, food, businesses and all other public services. Although Latinos also are discriminated upon a bit, it doesn't compare to the magnitude black people deal with, most Cubans classify as white anyway. Police still racial profile and over harass blacks everyday. The amount of drug users in white communities may be just as high but police don't go there looking for drugs. When arrested and put into the justice system, blacks can forget it. Statistics have proven blacks get harsher sentences than hispanics and whites for the exact same crimes. It is very hard for one to move up with no proper education, fairness in lending, or government. Growing up poor means living in an area all around health hazards (since any health hazard is always put near a black community). Bad health and all of the other forms of discrimination lead to a stressful life. What do most people do when they are stressed? Practice unhealthy eating or spending habits. Unhealthy eating habits and no proper health care lead to obesity and increased disease which leads to unhealthy children.

Of course blacks can't open businesses. If a black and Cuban of the same qualifications go to a bank to get a business loan (assuming the government didn't already give the Cuban money to start a business) the black is probably going to be declined and if approved it will be with a much higher interest rate thus decreased likelihood for success.

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Why is it than that Mexicans who come here with NOTHING are after yrs of hard work are starting their own businesses ?
Some are doing incredibly well .

Dont tell me they are getting help because they are not

There comes a point you kick into gear and develop work ethics instead of crying all the time. I had a guy in my squad (African American) in the army cried like a little punk boo hoo "everyone is racist thats why I can only go so far".

He changed alot REAL FAST cut that BS out and now doing very well working for phone co in CA in some MNGMT position . Army saved his butt. He is lucky the other African Americans didnt kill him as he made us all sick ESP them

Apologist like yourself would have enabled him to stay in slum .

I think Mexicans are one if not the most discriminated group there are yet pulling way ahead of Blacks .
EVERY group that has come here continues to pass them not a single exception to this .
Continue making excuses for those who want just that .

[Luiso]

Originally Posted by deep-blue-water

up north there would always be a rich white guys saying "whats up with blacks and latinos ...."

now I'm in the south and its a rich Cuban guy ...

The Cubans have been in Miami the longest old money but I think the richest are the fairly recent new influx of Venezuelans .

Very hard working people with no "punks" in their ranks they are going to be the new Latin money here

[DCkid]

Originally Posted by Luiso

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Why is it than that Mexicans who come here with NOTHING are after yrs of hard work are starting their own businesses ?
Some are doing incredibly well .

Key Word! SOME! Believe it or not there are blacks that are doing very well and starting there own businesses as well. Ever heard of Robert Johnson?? Not all blacks are in poverty.

Mexicans face the same issues of violence and poverty that blacks do. People just seem to focus on the negative aspects of the black community and put it in the spotlight.

[deep-blue-water]

It must be because the Cuban Race is superior to the black race .... is that what you guys are looking to hear?

[Wild Style]

Originally Posted by Luiso

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Why is it than that Mexicans who come here with NOTHING are after yrs of hard work are starting their own businesses ?
Some are doing incredibly well .

Dont tell me they are getting help because they are not

There comes a point you kick into gear and develop work ethics instead of crying all the time. I had a guy in my squad (African American) in the army cried like a little punk boo hoo "everyone is racist thats why I can only go so far".

He changed alot REAL FAST cut that BS out and now doing very well working for phone co in CA in some MNGMT position . Army saved his butt. He is lucky the other African Americans didnt kill him as he made us all sick ESP them

Apologist like yourself would have enabled him to stay in slum .

I think Mexicans are one if not the most discriminated group there are yet pulling way ahead of Blacks .
EVERY group that has come here continues to pass them not a single exception to this .
Continue making excuses for those who want just that .

and what about the others who are out gang banging, selling drugs and doing other such crimes?

[HeadedWest]

Originally Posted by Wild Style

hung from trees up till 50 yrs ago

What lynchings took place in 1958?

[DCkid]

Originally Posted by HeadedWest

What lynchings took place in 1958?

http://www.autopsis.org/foot/lynchdates3.html