top 5 worst and best Miami neighborhoods (Hialeah, Coral Springs: to live, zip codes, club)

[freedom_fighter145]

Originally Posted by Phil~Denver

I beg to differ with you Chelito on your assertion that NMB is such a terrible place. I lived there for six years while I taught at FIU and lived in North Miami Beach near the Golden Glades interchange in a charming home with a typically large yard studded with cherry palms and exotic fruit trees, a one level floor plan, really nice neighbors and and only 10 mins to the Beach.(granted 163rd/167th is always packed with traffic, it's best to learn to navigate other streets to get to Biscayne, such as taking Miami gardens Dr.)

Chelito has a typical "better than thou" immigrant Latino attitude towards areas that have dark looking people, Even if they are nice areas.

The North Miami Beach and North Miami areas are quiet and leafy neighborhoods with an interesting mix of middle-class Trinidadians, Hatians, Jews, Peruvians, Jamaicans, Brazilians, Asians, whites, Blacks.. It offers good shopping, better schools than anywhere else in central and northern Dade. Best of all it's only minutes away from several beautiful public beaches, my favourite is Sunny Isles beach.

Now let's examine what I consider the "Worse" and "Worst" neighborhoods of Miami, Cuba.

All Latino/Hispanic ares if you don't speak spanish fluently and unintelligibly as it is spoken there. I lived in Spain as an international student and when I moved to Miami I had to learn a whole new language, it's called "Cuban".

Starting with Little Havana and the surrounding areas. Picture Cuba or Venezuela and all it's craziness transported literally to the United States. some streets are so polluted with litter that it piles up on the corners. If you don't speak spanish you will completely lost since even the street signs are in spanish. It characterized by substandard poverty and so much crime that all of the houses brandish Burglar Bars in all shapes and sizes.

Hialeah isn't much better.
West Miami is the same, from North Kendal to Sweetwater, Westchester, Flagami area, Miami Gardens, Hialeah Gardens and Doral, the scenery is all in spanish and you feel you are in another country. Burglar Bars, Crazy Drivers, unruly pedestrians, Gang activity on every corner, not to mention the loud Spanish music played from every house at all hours of the night and especially on weekends, cars parked on laws and over sidewalks. I lived near the FIU campus for a while near Coral Way, which by the way is a really nice area once you get close to Coral Gables and out of the Spanish areas. My townhouse looked like a prison, my neighbors were loud and disrespectful and several nights were interrupted with gunshots and police sirens.

Thank goodness I was able to move to North Miami Beach because I had starting not liking Miami. NMB was so much more pleasant and centrally located than the westchester townhouse.

North Miami Beach is much better, it's truly diverse and less ethnocentric than those Cuban areas of W and SW Dade. Crime is much less, I can go to the beach w/o having to get on a freeway and best of all, I can see out my Window!!!

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Just joined the forum today, glad to be a part of the discussion. I don't think I've seen such a racist post. It's funny, you blast Chelito on account of his "immigrant Latino attitude," and claim his thoughts on NMB are all based because his racist view against "dark looking people." You then turn it around and completely defile and harrass the Hispanic and Latinos. How can Chelito's eyes be filled with racist ideas, and yours not?

I find it hard to believe you were an FIU professor. I'm a current FIU student, and the idea that a professor could be racist against hispanics is beyond me, considering FIU is predominantly Latino/Hispanic. I doubt you were a professor, your attitude and direction are completely opposite of what a professor of any University should uphold. You're ignorant, and you're a fool. I wouldn't be surprised if you WERE a professor, and were thrown out.

Also, this conversation happened several pages back, but I would also agree that Rap/Hip-hop music is a major cause for many things. To be against it, would be to be blind. Music is very influential.

[angelo7221]

5 Best
1.) Gables By The Sea
2.) Golden Beach
3.) Key Biscayne
4.) Fair Isle/ Grove Isle
5.) Aventura

5 Worst
1.) Opa-Locka
2.) Overtown
3.) NW 62 ST
4.) Allapattah
5.) Miami Gardens

[JProg305]

Many of the neighborhoods in the greater Miami area have undergone dramatic changes in the past couple of decades. As someone who was born and raised in this area, here are the areas that I think are "good" and "bad." Good areas, with mostly affluent populations and overall lower rates of crime, include Coral Gables, areas of Miami Beach, Aventura, Miami Lakes, Brickell area of downtown, some areas of Coconut Grove (although there is some dodgy areas too so be careful), and Miami Shores. Bad areas, with high levels of concentrated poverty and all the related problems like high crime, prostitution, drugs, delapidated neighborhoods, etc., include Overtown, Liberty City, Bunche Park, Opa Locka, Carol City, Miami Gardens, the western parts of North Miami and North Miami Beach, south and west Hialeah (although Hialeah is not as dangerous as the other areas, there are high levels of property crime like burglary and some other crimes like assault and armed robbery), Allapattah, Goulds, Perrine, parts of Cutler Ridge, Richmond Heights, parts of Little Haiti and Little Havana, the ungentrified parts of the Design District and Wynwood and various other unincorporated areas of Dade county.

[minnieme]

hey can any one tell me about how the Casino Dealers at the Key Largo wages are,or the Fort Myers dealer wages (tips). Please let me know if it is worth my time ?

[Phil~Denver]

Originally Posted by ddrox08

To the phil guy, I'm curious as to why you put Miami Gardens in your post
when the population is about 93 percent black....

I meant Miami Springs, which is a real Dump!
Miami Gardens is also a Dump, but not because it's mostly Black.. I sense a bit of racism with that comment.. typical Miami!
People come from third world countries and bring their backward ideologies with them. They think it's O.K. to litter for example, O.K. to descriminate againts anyone darker than them, even other Latinos. All I heard from them is how one nationality is better than the other, Puerto Ricans better than Cubans, Cubans better than Dominicans, Dominicans better than Haitians and All Immigrants better than native "Blacks" or "Negros". It got on my freiking nerves.

I expected to see diversity and what I ended up seeing was Race wars, ethnic enclaves, Latin American classism and elitism and ethnic people who "claim" to be White, like the Cubans.

Haitians, by the way, are way more palatable and friendly than the Cubans, who can't open their mouths without yelling and think they are better than everyone else, yet they live in Ghettoes like Hialeah, Carol City and Sweetwater.

Miramar and Pembroke Pines are a very nice suburban communities with excellent shopping just outside Miami-Dade with brand with new homes and a large Jamaican population, yet Cubans from Hialeah think Hialeah is better than these areas because they are mostly Black. Again, just plain Racist!

[island atoll]

Originally Posted by angelo7221

5 Best
1.) Gables By The Sea
2.) Golden Beach
3.) Key Biscayne
4.) Fair Isle/ Grove Isle
5.) Aventura

5 Worst
1.) Opa-Locka
2.) Overtown
3.) NW 62 ST
4.) Allapattah
5.) Miami Gardens

Good synopsis. I would add most of West Dade to the 'Worst' category as well as the Redlands to the 'Best' area.

[ddrox08]

Originally Posted by Phil~Denver

I meant Miami Springs, which is a real Dump!
Miami Gardens is also a Dump, but not because it's mostly Black.. I sense a bit of racism with that comment.. typical Miami!
People come from third world countries and bring their backward ideologies with them. They think it's O.K. to litter for example, O.K. to descriminate againts anyone darker than them, even other Latinos. All I heard from them is how one nationality is better than the other, Puerto Ricans better than Cubans, Cubans better than Dominicans, Dominicans better than Haitians and All Immigrants better than native "Blacks" or "Negros". It got on my freiking nerves.

I expected to see diversity and what I ended up seeing was Race wars, ethnic enclaves, Latin American classism and elitism and ethnic people who "claim" to be White, like the Cubans.

Haitians, by the way, are way more palatable and friendly than the Cubans, who can't open their mouths without yelling and think they are better than everyone else, yet they live in Ghettoes like Hialeah, Carol City and Sweetwater.

Miramar and Pembroke Pines are a very nice suburban communities with excellent shopping just outside Miami-Dade with brand with new homes and a large Jamaican population, yet Cubans from Hialeah think Hialeah is better than these areas because they are mostly Black. Again, just plain Racist!

No there was no racism, I was just curious. I'm 50 african america 50 bahamian lol. No hard feelings. I do agree though, I have experienced some discrimination in areas like Hialeah but they aren't all bad

[island atoll]

Originally Posted by Phil~Denver

I meant Miami Springs, which is a real Dump!
Miami Gardens is also a Dump, but not because it's mostly Black.. I sense a bit of racism with that comment.. typical Miami!

Haitians, by the way, are way more palatable and friendly than the Cubans, who can't open their mouths without yelling and think they are better than everyone else, yet they live in Ghettoes like Hialeah, Carol City and Sweetwater.

There are no Cubans in Carol City.


Miami Springs is far from a dump.


You don't know what you're talking about. And you were a teacher at FIU? Scary!

[Phil~Denver]

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There are no Cubans in Carol City.


Miami Springs is far from a dump.


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Hahahaha.. No Cubans in Carol City???

West Carol City is 100% Cuban! Well, maybe 90% Cuban 10% Puertorican

I had a friend who lived near 67th and Miami Gardens drive.

His neighbors were all Cuban gang-members, mostly Marielitos.

Cubans don't want to think Carol City is Cuban because it has a bad reputation. They wan't to think it is mostly black when it is ceratainly NOT. Do a myspace search or do a demographic lookup and you will see that most of Carol City is Cuban. They are the largest ethnic group there, no if's, and's or but's. Carol City is mostly Cuban!


Miami Springs IS a dump. It's bordered by scarry Okeechobee Rd., Hialeah, the noisy Airport and 826. It's a host for ghetto clubs like club Zima and so on. Does that sound like "fine living" to you? Oh yeah.. It's also cuban so I guess it can't be a dump. Right!!!!
Miami springs is just as ghetto as Miami Gardens, Miami Lakes and sweetwater. I guess If you compare it to neighboring Hialeah it is "fine living". Miami folks really don't know much about decent neighborhoods since their only point of reference is Coral Gables, with it's high congestion and crime ridden streets. Travel elsewhere and you will see just how ghetto Miami springs and Coral Gables really are. I am originally from Denver, CO, but I also lived in Weston, FL for many years. What you get for a half a million in Miami is a disgrace! Half that amount buys you "real" fine living in Colorado, without the crime, litter, noise and low living standards.

My wife is African-American and she got tired of being called a "negro" by Cuban refugees. Colombians seem alot less racist and way more educated than Cubans. We never had problems with Colombians. Venezuelans are also decent.

[dadeguy]

Originally Posted by island atoll

There are no Cubans in Carol City.


Miami Springs is far from a dump.


You don't know what you're talking about. And you were a teacher at FIU? Scary!

hello island atoll. I'm not looking to start and argument with you here so please accept this correction to your post as if from a friend sitting before with a big a smile.

1. there are plenty of cuban families in carol city

2. it's clear that the poster who calls himself phil~denver is a troll. we should advocate the policy of not feeding these types of posters with any sort of response. maybe they will wander off and seek the attention they crave elsewhere.

3. regarding the subject poster and his claim to being involved in tenuted academia, I suspect all I will dare to post is that I'm almost certain that if he tells those that know and possibly care for him that the sky is blue, those people take a fleeting glance upward.