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Old 12-07-2008, 03:58 PM
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3. regarding the subject poster and his claim to being involved in tenuted academia, I suspect all I will dare to post is that I'm almost certain that if he tells those that know and possibly care for him that the sky is blue, those people take a fleeting glance upward.
What?

I suspect English composition was not your best subject.
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Old 12-07-2008, 04:00 PM
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There are no Cubans in Carol City.


Miami Springs is far from a dump.


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Hahahaha.. No Cubans in Carol City???

West Carol City is 100% Cuban! Well, maybe 90% Cuban 10% Puertorican

I had a friend who lived near 67th and Miami Gardens drive.

His neighbors were all Cuban gang-members, mostly Marielitos.

Cubans don't want to think Carol City is Cuban because it has a bad reputation. They wan't to think it is mostly black when it is ceratainly NOT. Do a myspace search or do a demographic lookup and you will see that most of Carol City is Cuban. They are the largest ethnic group there, no if's, and's or but's. Carol City is mostly Cuban!


Miami Springs IS a dump. It's bordered by scarry Okeechobee Rd., Hialeah, the noisy Airport and 826. It's a host for ghetto clubs like club Zima and so on. Does that sound like "fine living" to you? Oh yeah.. It's also cuban so I guess it can't be a dump. Right!!!!
Miami springs is just as ghetto as Miami Gardens, Miami Lakes and sweetwater. I guess If you compare it to neighboring Hialeah it is "fine living". Miami folks really don't know much about decent neighborhoods since their only point of reference is Coral Gables, with it's high congestion and crime ridden streets. Travel elsewhere and you will see just how ghetto Miami springs and Coral Gables really are. I am originally from Denver, CO, but I also lived in Weston, FL for many years. What you get for a half a million in Miami is a disgrace! Half that amount buys you "real" fine living in Colorado, without the crime, litter, noise and low living standards.

My wife is African-American and she got tired of being called a "negro" by Cuban refugees. Colombians seem alot less racist and way more educated than Cubans. We never had problems with Colombians. Venezuelans are also decent.
Um no, you're wrong again. Cubans only make up about 27 percent of carol city's population and carol city is IN miami gardens. I live in carol city as well as attended carol city senior high school.
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Oh and by the way, I did a demographic look up and the majority of carol city was BLACK.
And as far as gang members, that is a total exaggeration. Carol City isn't the best of areas
but it's far from the worst.
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miami springs is a DUMP, full of druggies, alcoholics, and hypocrites, lived there b4 so i know.
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South Florida's 10 best neighborhoods:

1. Weston
2. Coral Springs
3. Lighthouse Point
4. Coconut Creek
5. Boca Raton and Boca del Mar
6. Lauderdale-by-the-Sea
7. Boynton Beach
8. Key Biscayne
9. Bal Harbour
10. West Broward (pembroke Pines, Miramar, Davie, Cooper City, Plantation, Sunrise, Parkland, Tamarac, etc.)

South Florida's 10 Worst Neighborhoods:

1. Hialeah
2. Carol City
3. Liberty City/Overtown
4. Sweetwater
5. Opa Locka
6. West Miami
7. Little Havana
8. Hialeah Gardens
9. Westchester
10. Greater Miami Area (Especially everything between Bird Road and Miami-Broward Line, which includes most of Miami proper)
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Oh and by the way, I did a demographic look up and the majority of carol city was BLACK.
And as far as gang members, that is a total exaggeration. Carol City isn't the best of areas
but it's far from the worst.
gosh I'm about to give up on this topic.

carol city is about evenly mixed between hispanic and black families. I would like to emphasize the family in that sentence. carol city is a middle class blue collar neighborhood. I live here. carol city is my home. without coming off as a chest thumpy braggart I will say that I could afford to live just about anywhere in south florida. I earn better than 70% of the people in the country. I enjoy living well within my means because doing so allows me far greater options in life than not doing so.

there is very little gang activity in carol city.

but consider the following question. what is a gang? is a gang not a group of people? I have nothing to fear from people. if you refuse to be fearful and have love in your heart but also the willingness to not be victimized, these things come across non verbally. people "know". you know this, we all know this.

quit fearing people because of skin color or national origin. doing so the epitome of ignorance. we are all part of the human family, just refuse to be a victim and insist on being a friend.
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Old 12-07-2008, 04:30 PM
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Demographics for Carol City:


City: Carol City, FL
Miami-Dade County, FL
Zip code population (2000): 45,105
Estimated zip code population in 2007: 51,508






Most common places of birth for the foreign-born residents in Carol City:
  • Cuba (47%)
  • Dominican Republic (8%)
  • Colombia (7%)
  • Jamaica (7%)
  • Nicaragua (7%)
  • Haiti (3%)
  • Other Caribbean (3%)

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Some demographic resources can be misleading.

The reason being is that the majority of Hispanics claim themselves as "White", thereby splitting the actual Latino population between those who claim "White" and those who claim "Hispanic". This then gives the African-American population the official majority in certain areas when it is simply not the case. Also, A good part of Hispanics are of African descent and claim "African-American", such is the case with many Cubans, Puertoricans and Dominicans. That is why it is necessary to compile data based on "white alone" and "black alone" to be more clear.

Either way, Carol City isn't perhaps the worst neighborhood in SoFla, even if its reputation says otherwise. Decent people live in all neighborhoods, rich or poor and drawing these distinctions is simply immoral, although I also partook in it. Sorry!

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Demographics for Carol City:


City: Carol City, FL
Miami-Dade County, FL
Zip code population (2000): 45,105
Estimated zip code population in 2007: 51,508





Most common places of birth for the foreign-born residents in Carol City:
  • Cuba (47%)
  • Dominican Republic (8%)
  • Colombia (7%)
  • Jamaica (7%)
  • Nicaragua (7%)
  • Haiti (3%)
  • Other Caribbean (3%)
That information is faulty because carol city has 2 zip codes, 33056, and 33055. In 33055
50.87% of people are white, 37.88% are black, 0.58% are asian, 0.13% are native american, and 11.19% claim 'Other'.
57.79% of the people in Opa-Locka (zip 33055), FL, claim hispanic ethnicity (meaning 42.21% are non-hispanic).


In 33056





6.61% of people are white, 88.49% are black, 0.34% are asian, 0.24% are native american, and 4.57% claim 'Other'.
9.98% of the people in Opa-Locka (zip 33056), FL, claim hispanic ethnicity (meaning 90.02% are non-hispanic).


and when regarding all of carol city



39.47% of people are white, 50.29% are black, 0.54% are asian, 0.18% are native american, and 9.52% claim 'Other'.
45.32% of the people in Carol City, FL, claim hispanic ethnicity (meaning 54.68% are non-hispanic).




This information is from Sperling's BestPlaces as of 2007.


Now let's see some other sources.


Wikipedia:


The racial makeup of the CDP was 52.10% African American, 38.11% White (6.4% were Non-Hispanic White,).[3] 0.55% Asian, 0.19% Native American, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 5.53% from other races, and 3.48% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 42.00% of the population.

City-Data.com:

Races in Carol City:
  • Black (52.1%)
  • Hispanic (42.0%)
  • White Non-Hispanic (6.4%)
  • Other race (5.5%)
  • Two or more races (3.5%)


See where you went wrong is you only looked up the demographics for 33055 when carol city has 2 zip codes. If you search carol city alone on city-data you will get the the demographics added up from ALL of carol city. Have a nice day.
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