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Old 11-02-2008, 04:56 AM
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HI, being in PA with relatives living in FL I'm glad some of you are voting for Obama.

I was an independent, switched to Rep to vote for Ron Paul, the media shut him out, so I went back to Dem, I really liked Ron Paul.

I really think Obama will make a change for the better, I'm tired of the corporations ruining our country and I just cannot trust the Rep party anymore, they knew the mortgage crisis was gonna happen as well as wall st. I seen it coming years ago, when i looked at my mutual fund and any savings I had I thought things would turn around, just got worse, GE stock is 19.00 thats low, and Rite Aid is maybe over 50 cents, you can clearly see something bad went on, its a shame, all because of corporation greed.
You do realize the Dems have been in control of Congress, right? It amazes me that anyone can believe it is the president alone that is responsible for the mess we are in.
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Old 11-02-2008, 05:07 AM
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...Now lets make this relevent to Miami. Miami's public school systems are not very good. Thats an understatement. These conditions cannot continue. I agree with Obama that money needs to be spent on education. But he's going about it the wrong way. (Raising Taxes)

Which brings me back to the DCKid plan. Cap executive bonuses. In this case, cap government employee salaries. The salary difference between the head of the school board and the 7th grade math teacher is SO WRONG. Who wants to put up with bad kids at that low salary. School reform starts with better conditions for educators.

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I don't disagree that better conditions will help school reform. However, you only need to look to states such as NJ to see that throwing money at the school system is not the answer in and of itself. They have been pouring money into the school systems and particularly in to underprivileged districts, yet scores have generally fallen, not increased. Perhaps the first step should be more accountability on the part of those overpaid administrators. I also think more control needs to be returned to the teachers. Too many administrators are about the numbers but are losing touch with the realities of what students need to learn as opposed to what they need to test well. There is a difference, and there is no question learning will benefit our students much more than simply helping them pass a test by teaching to the test instead of educating our children.
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Old 11-02-2008, 07:49 AM
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Well written and I agree with SOME of your points. I was against the bail out in spite of the fact that I had lost a tremendous amount from my 401K. I was willing to lose more and let the big corporations fail. When these executives are brought out in handcuffs for provable wrongdoing then I would sign on to the bail out. Obama, or Hussein as I like to call him, is 100% for a redistribution of wealth. I am far from wealthy but I retired from one job and the next day relocated down here to take a second job so I could afford to send my children through college. I refuse (if i have the choice) to give up 1 extra cent to a government that has proven (Republican or Democrat) time and time again that they wastefully spend money. Obama has already said that he will let the Bush tax cuts expire. The second he does that, my taxes go up about $3600!! I'm tired of the take, take, and more take. Finally, in addition to everything else I have the following points:
1) What do we KNOW about Barack Hussein Obama
A) He was born in Kenya and cannot prove he is even an American citizen.
B) We cannot get any of his college records because he has forbidden it. Why...does the word anti-government, socialist, communist mean anything??
C) He comes from one of the most politically corrupt regions historically (Chicago)
D) He has ties to William Ayers (Anarchist, Bomber, Anti-American), Reverend Wright (Racist, Anti-American, and Anti-Semitic from his own mouth), Rezko (Convicted criminal), and Khalidi (PLO Terrorist ties). These men are all more than just casual acquaintances no matter what Hussein says.
2) More important than anything else is this...When all of our enemies and countries that HATE Christians, Jews, anything not Islamic, are in support of Hussein's election that tells me something. They know the man is inexperienced, weak, and not a leader. He is a good looking guy, may be a good person (we don't know enough about him), who is a good public speaker (great when he has a teleprompter telling him what to say).
3) While in the Senate (For a whole TWO years) he has voted PRESENT on NINETY EIGHT occasions instead of casting a vote on the issues!!!

If he is voted in, I will respect the office of President and therefore support him but I believe he will be very bad for this country. I'm not HUGE fan of McCain's either, but I must vote my conscience and support the lesser of two evils.

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Well written and I agree with SOME of your points. I was against the bail out in spite of the fact that I had lost a tremendous amount from my 401K. I was willing to lose more and let the big corporations fail. When these executives are brought out in handcuffs for provable wrongdoing then I would sign on to the bail out. Obama, or Hussein as I like to call him, is 100% for a redistribution of wealth. I am far from wealthy but I retired from one job and the next day relocated down here to take a second job so I could afford to send my children through college. I refuse (if i have the choice) to give up 1 extra cent to a government that has proven (Republican or Democrat) time and time again that they wastefully spend money. Obama has already said that he will let the Bush tax cuts expire. The second he does that, my taxes go up about $3600!! I'm tired of the take, take, and more take. Finally, in addition to everything else I have the following points:
1) What do we KNOW about Barack Hussein Obama
A) He was born in Kenya and cannot prove he is even an American citizen.
B) We cannot get any of his college records because he has forbidden it. Why...does the word anti-government, socialist, communist mean anything??
C) He comes from one of the most politically corrupt regions historically (Chicago)
D) He has ties to William Ayers (Anarchist, Bomber, Anti-American), Reverend Wright (Racist, Anti-American, and Anti-Semitic from his own mouth), Rezko (Convicted criminal), and Khalidi (PLO Terrorist ties). These men are all more than just casual acquaintances no matter what Hussein says.
2) More important than anything else is this...When all of our enemies and countries that HATE Christians, Jews, anything not Islamic, are in support of Hussein's election that tells me something. They know the man is inexperienced, weak, and not a leader. He is a good looking guy, may be a good person (we don't know enough about him), who is a good public speaker (great when he has a teleprompter telling him what to say).
3) While in the Senate (For a whole TWO years) he has voted PRESENT on NINETY EIGHT occasions instead of casting a vote on the issues!!!

If he is voted in, I will respect the office of President and therefore support him but I believe he will be very bad for this country. I'm not HUGE fan of McCain's either, but I must vote my conscience and support the lesser of two evils.

Yeah! in 2000...people thought they knew W...and in 2004 people thought that they knew W better....you know the rest of the story
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You do realize the Dems have been in control of Congress, right? It amazes me that anyone can believe it is the president alone that is responsible for the mess we are in.

how hong have they been in control of congress?
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You know what else? I found this from Fox News.

When Obama was 6 years old. He his favorite cartoon was Johhny Quest. And his favorite character was Haagi. See. Obama's association with a muslim radical such as Haagi further turns his associations into question. Haagi is also the favorite character of many Islam extremists. Why isn't this issue being made public by networks such as MSNBC or CNN. If McCain favored a cartoon character such as Haagi, this would be all over the news networks.


FYI: Thats how silly these criticisms of Obama's associations and his background sound.
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Barney Frank, Christopher Dodd and other key Democrats on the Finance/Banking committees were approached by Republicans and told that the regulations for lending by Fannie and Freddie had to be tightened. They responded that loosening the regulations was a good thing because it was allowing people (Politically Correct Groups) who couldn't own homes before to buy them now. I'm all for home ownership by ALL people but we all know that some people wouldn't qualify for a loan for a $100 pair of sneakers. Republicans AND Democrats share blame for the mess we are in now. To say anything otherwise would not be truthful.
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I am going to put my Two-cents in.

Being Christian I cannot vote for someone that is not Pro Life, Obama has already said when he is voted in he will be behind partial birth abortions.
Obama has no experience. He has been in Congress for Two years and on the Camapign trail for a 1yr.
Congress and Senate will have Democrat controlled. Palosi and Reid will be pulling the strings. Bush has a very low approval rating. But who has a lower approval rating? Congress led by Palosi and Reid.
Who is more proven? McCain
Distribution of wealth scares me. Sounds like Socialism.
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