Miami Bad Areas...How bad is bad? (Hialeah, Fort Lauderdale: apartment, rent)

[DCkid]

Eh. From what I noticed, bad areas in Miami are not anywhere on the level of Camden, NJ, Gary, IN, New Orleans, LA, Detroit, MI, Flint, MI, Richmond, CA, etc.

Crime here is just typical big city crime. Not dodgin bullets trying to get to your mailbox type crime. Those large midwestern cities and their surrounding areas are just on another level when it comes to crime.

[blackklight]

Originally Posted by DCkid

Eh. From what I noticed, bad areas in Miami are not anywhere on the level of Camden, NJ, Gary, IN, New Orleans, LA, Detroit, MI, Flint, MI, Richmond, CA, etc.

Crime here is just typical big city crime. Not dodgin bullets trying to get to your mailbox type crime. Those large midwestern cities and their surrounding areas are just on another level when it comes to crime.

well gee lets see ...

you just named the top 6 worse cities in the united states

why would you put miami against those? the only place that i believe miami's neighborhoods don't rival is nola.

[dadeguy]

Originally Posted by blackklight

this post has wrong all over it

really? please point out why you think the post is catastrophically wrong?

[JProg305]

Hey Topshop, Miami is no different than any other big city in the U.S. in regards to the level of degradation and crime in some of the inner city neighborhoods. There are some reasons, however, why Miami gets a bad reputation. One of the reasons is that some of the unsavory areas are predominantly Hispanic and Haitian. This causes some white and black people to become nervous because getting lost in a neighborhood where everyone speaks Spanish or Creole can be intimidating. Having said that, and being Cuban, I wouldn't want to be lost in many of the neighborhoods in Miami-Dade county. Some of the areas that I consider to be high crime areas are Opa-Locka, some areas of Miami Gardens, Norland, western parts of North Miami (off of the Gratigny expressway), south Hialeah (suntan village), west Hialeah (off of 49th near the Palmetto), Liberty City, Overtown, Allapattah, Richmond Heights, Goulds, Perrine, some parts of the upper east side (including little Haiti and Wynwood even though both are undergoing massive revitalization (Wynwood more than Little Haiti), parts of Little Havana, and many of the areas between I-95 and 27th avenue in general. Stay stafe.

[Banx]

Originally Posted by JProg305

south Hialeah (suntan village), west Hialeah (off of 49th near the Palmetto),

Are these areas really that bad? I always had the impression that Hialeah was fairly safe, if not snobbish at times. What kinda stuff goes on there?

[HowGoesIt]

Hialeah is fine. It's a working class latino neighborhood. Some street crime here and there, but nothing compared to other city neighborhoods in Miami. I always thought that Doral was a pretty nice town. I believe it's over 75% hispanic, but is pretty ritzy in parts. I know Univision and Carnival Cruise Lines are HQ'd there.

[bulgar62]

Miami is one of the few truly international cities in US. It has a wonderful mixture of Latin, Caribbean and American culture. You can either embrace that, have a respect for them and enjoy the incredible variety of experiences those cultures can offer or you can reject them and feel isolated and uncomfortable.
As for safety, just like in any big city, there are areas that you would avoid at night. But also there are a lot of neighborhoods were you can feel completely safe day or night. And no there is definitely no areas like those in the video. It is not right to compare a few pictures of run down houses with a continues video of entire abandoned neighborhoods. I can go in any big city in the world and take a pictures of run down houses.

[topshop]

Originally Posted by DCkid

Eh. From what I noticed, bad areas in Miami are not anywhere on the level of Camden, NJ, Gary, IN, New Orleans, LA, Detroit, MI, Flint, MI, Richmond, CA, etc.

Crime here is just typical big city crime. Not dodgin bullets trying to get to your mailbox type crime. Those large midwestern cities and their surrounding areas are just on another level when it comes to crime.

This is kind of what I was assuming...and hoping to hear.

I notice you mentioned Flint...3rd largest city in Michigan. We do have some dandy areas here.

[topshop]

Originally Posted by JProg305

Hey Topshop, Miami is no different than any other big city in the U.S. in regards to the level of degradation and crime in some of the inner city neighborhoods. There are some reasons, however, why Miami gets a bad reputation. One of the reasons is that some of the unsavory areas are predominantly Hispanic and Haitian. This causes some white and black people to become nervous because getting lost in a neighborhood where everyone speaks Spanish or Creole can be intimidating. Having said that, and being Cuban, I wouldn't want to be lost in many of the neighborhoods in Miami-Dade county. Some of the areas that I consider to be high crime areas are Opa-Locka, some areas of Miami Gardens, Norland, western parts of North Miami (off of the Gratigny expressway), south Hialeah (suntan village), west Hialeah (off of 49th near the Palmetto), Liberty City, Overtown, Allapattah, Richmond Heights, Goulds, Perrine, some parts of the upper east side (including little Haiti and Wynwood even though both are undergoing massive revitalization (Wynwood more than Little Haiti), parts of Little Havana, and many of the areas between I-95 and 27th avenue in general. Stay stafe.

While Creole could be a challenge , if we end up spending significant time in the Miami area in the future, learning Spanish will be near the top of our list. If a certain language is common in a certain area (setting aside all the political debates), then it would be smart to learn it enough to get by in my opinion. At one time, back in HS, I could speak Latin....ya, I know...not real useful. But, from what I understand, it's similar to Spanish, so maybe I will have a bit of a head start.

It's interesting how different things are up here compared to Miami. We had a 100% Hispanic employee here for a number of years...I'm pretty sure he did not know even 10 words in Spanish!

[planetsurf]

Originally Posted by Lulu101

maybe Newark

One of my favorite restaurants is in Newark -- Forno's!

Great story -- we're driving through a VERY rough neighborhood in Newark to meet the family at Fornos, this guy comes up to the car to ask for some change, looks in, sees 4 white guys in a BMW in one of the roughest neighborhoods, and asks "You guys Mafia?" My Uncle hands him a buck and says, "Yeah, don't touch the car."
The look on this poor guys face was priceless, he was much more scared of US at that moment than we were of him.
It's all relative.

I think the worst areas of Miami (and SoFla) are as bad anywhere, just not as big. You might have 5, 10 or 15 square blocks of true hell, where in NY you'll have half a city.