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Old 01-11-2009, 12:03 AM
 
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i was looking at brownsville on maps.google.com and damn it was ghetto. shoulda screen shooted.
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Old 01-11-2009, 08:26 PM
 
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What percentage of the low income people living in these neighborhoods (as per the pics) actually sell drugs, rob people and blast music in their homes?
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Old 01-13-2009, 07:45 AM
 
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I'm writing from New Orleans, and I can tell you that the pictures you've posted here of undesirable Miami neighborhoods look like the Taj Mahal compared to Central City, Treme, and the 9th Ward in New Orleans. The streets in your shots look spotless compared to the ones in the neighborhoods I mention. There's usually a lot more raw garbage, abandoned cars, and sometimes even a shot up body lying in the gutter here.
So you've got some scary looking public housing projects and cheap hotel/apartment roach traps.
The places still look far more inviting than some places that people live in here.
Heck, some people here are still living in gutted houses with no electricity, more than three years after Katrina. Some parts of New Orleans must look like Homestead after Hurricane Andrew.
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Old 01-13-2009, 08:42 AM
 
Location: South Beach (MB, FL)
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What percentage of the low income people living in these neighborhoods (as per the pics) actually sell drugs, rob people and blast music in their homes?
Good question. Another question is, what percentage of people living in these neighborhoods have juvi or adult conviction records?
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Old 01-14-2009, 03:18 PM
 
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I have to agree with Salo13...Many parts of New Orleans are ratholes, no offense to people there
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:00 PM
 
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i think Miami doesn't have many run down abandoned buildings due to the fact that the blacks stayed in the black areas, no real major white flight occurred in Miami to cause blocks of abandoned houses.

the only part of miami that was ever really run down was miami beach and some parts of downtown, but that has been all gentrified by tv shows( miami vice) and developers.
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Miami Gardens, Florida
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Default There are so Many Issues to Consider

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i think Miami doesn't have many run down abandoned buildings due to the fact that the blacks stayed in the black areas, no real major white flight occurred in Miami to cause blocks of abandoned houses.

the only part of miami that was ever really run down was miami beach and some parts of downtown, but that has been all gentrified by tv shows( miami vice) and developers.
Well, Miami's white-flight happened decades ago, so obviously the buildings would no longer be abandoned at this present time. What we are experiencing in these neighborhoods is a sense of hopelessness. Most of these citizens are law-abiding citizens, but think about it: after most of them pay the mortgage, there's barely enough money left to gas-up the car or even to put food on the table; also, after working back-to-back shifts, where is the financial resources or the time going to come from to maintain a home with a yard no less? Now, I'm not finding excuses for these people, but it can't be easy to fix up your house, making it look good only to have it broken into the next day. As a result, many of these residents probably don't see the use in caring for their homes the way most other Floridians do because if it looks too well-taken care of, the assumption might be that the tenants have money and would, therefore, be sitting ducks for break-ins.
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Miami Gardens, Florida
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Good question. Another question is, what percentage of people living in these neighborhoods have juvi or adult conviction records?
Okay, so what exactly is the point of posing a question like that? I'm not following.
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Miami Gardens, Florida
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Take pictures of 62nd.. Lol.. I'm from Fort Lauderdale,and I lock my doors when driving down 62nd.
You do have a mental complex, indeed.
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:38 PM
 
Location: MIA
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Well, Miami's white-flight happened decades ago, so obviously the buildings would no longer be abandoned at this present time. What we are experiencing in these neighborhoods is a sense of hopelessness. Most of these citizens are law-abiding citizens, but think about it: after most of them pay the mortgage, there's barely enough money left to gas-up the car or even to put food on the table; also, after working back-to-back shifts, where is the financial resources or the time going to come from to maintain a home with a yard no less? Now, I'm not finding excuses for these people, but it can't be easy to fix up your house, making it look good only to have it broken into the next day. As a result, many of these residents probably don't see the use in caring for their homes the way most other Floridians do because if it looks too well-taken care of, the assumption might be that the tenants have money and would, therefore, be sitting ducks for break-ins.

That's absolute B.S. There were blue collar/working class whites living in those homes before white flight. These lower-middle and middle class neighborhoods were beautiful when whites liven in them, now they look atrocious. Unkept lawns, streets strewn with garbage and abandoned shopping carts lining the sidewalks. Remember, I am talking about the working class areas (think Carol City, North Miami, North Miami Beach, Brownsville, El Portal, Westchester, West Miami, HIALEAH, Shenandoah area). I am talking about the working class areas of these towns, I know there are 'enclaves' or sections that are nicer.

Basically, you are talking about two generations, two groups, two races of people living on the SAME budget in the SAME houses. Yet the newest inhabitants make the same areas look ghetto. It's a shame. It's also not a question of age or deterioration of these areas, look how beautiful Coral Gables is, and it's the oldest area!

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