Miami's ghetto areas (pictures included) (Tampa, Orlando: schools, calculation, closing)

[somebodymiami]

ddrox08 nailed it on the last pics, anyways here are 2 pics i took in Nassau, Bahamas, for comparison.

[EnjoyTheSilence]

Interesting thread!

You know, Miami wouldn't be so bad if it were a greener city, i.e. more trees (not just palm trees), parks and less concrete.

Someone compared Miami to Detroit -- well in those pics, it's not far off. Detroit's excuse is that it does have an extremely horrible climate, with freezing cold winters, which isn't so great for plant life. What's Miami's excuse? We have a lush, almost-tropical climate here which is ideal for growing so many varieties of trees and plants, yet we choose to create a concrete wasteland instead.

The city planners aren't the only ones to blame -- the people are equally to blame. Instead of taking the time and effort to create beautiful yards (as the climate allows), they either shove grass or even concrete over them. I find this truly baffling; I mean, do people enjoy creating ugliness en-masse?

The city of Hialeah should be most ashamed of itself, in relation to lack of green. Hialeah isn't wealthy, but it isn't poor like Opa Locka, Brownsville, Overtown, etc. There are a large number of middle class people in Hialeah who just concrete over everything, then put friggin' bars on their windows, on top of everything else! Hialeah is an extremely ugly city in general, mainly because it's a concrete wasteland, devoid of any form of greenery. Not only that, people in Miami Springs (not so bad) must be so angry at having to look at that bright orange commieblock in Hialeah, just across the canal.

It's a shame that Miami is such an ugly city. Not even the wealthy neighborhoods look all that great. Most are as fake as the people who live there.

[citizen477]

Originally Posted by BCreass

Interesting thread!

You know, Miami wouldn't be so bad if it were a greener city, i.e. more trees (not just palm trees), parks and less concrete.

Someone compared Miami to Detroit -- well in those pics, it's not far off. Detroit's excuse is that it does have an extremely horrible climate, with freezing cold winters, which isn't so great for plant life. What's Miami's excuse? We have a lush, almost-tropical climate here which is ideal for growing so many varieties of trees and plants, yet we choose to create a concrete wasteland instead.

The city planners aren't the only ones to blame -- the people are equally to blame. Instead of taking the time and effort to create beautiful yards (as the climate allows), they either shove grass or even concrete over them. I find this truly baffling; I mean, do people enjoy creating ugliness en-masse?

The city of Hialeah should be most ashamed of itself, in relation to lack of green. Hialeah isn't wealthy, but it isn't poor like Opa Locka, Brownsville, Overtown, etc. There are a large number of middle class people in Hialeah who just concrete over everything, then put friggin' bars on their windows, on top of everything else! Hialeah is an extremely ugly city in general, mainly because it's a concrete wasteland, devoid of any form of greenery. Not only that, people in Miami Springs (not so bad) must be so angry at having to look at that bright orange commieblock in Hialeah, just across the canal.

It's a shame that Miami is such an ugly city. Not even the wealthy neighborhoods look all that great. Most are as fake as the people who live there.

B, you are absolutely right. Another area where city planners are missing the mark is with open, public, centralized space. A lot of the centralized spaces that are relatively nice and that attract different races, cultures, the young and the old alike tend to be privately-owned spaces, such as, malls. One of the the city of Miami Gardens' long-term planning goals is to turn that huge lot at the Carol City Flea Market, located at the intersection of Miami Gardens Drive (183rd Street) and N.W. 27th Avenue, into a large esplanade with mixed-use buildings and all. It's a tremendous feat, but it is promising, and think of the example the city of Miami Gardens would be setting for surrounding municipalities. With the economic downturn and Metro Rail's Orange Line on hold, that esplanade may not happen, however.

[♥♥PRINC3Ss♥♥]

I disagree that Goulds and Homestead looks worse than liberty city/brownsville or overtown. But I do agree they are crime infested, especially Goulds.

[ddrox08]

Originally Posted by somebodymiami

take some for us then?



ddroxx,what area did you take your pics in? thanks.

1, 3, 5, 10, 11, 14, and 21 in overtown


2, 17, and 20 in opa locka


4, 7, 8, 15, and 19 in lil haiti


6, 9, 12, 13, and 16 in liberty city


and 18 in carol city (their condo communities are pretty dirty)

[cuba libre]

Originally Posted by ddrox08

1, 3, 5, 10, 11, 14, and 21 in overtown


2, 17, and 20 in opa locka


4, 7, 8, 15, and 19 in lil haiti


6, 9, 12, 13, and 16 in liberty city


and 18 in carol city (their condo communities are pretty dirty)

Haha I love 'em!!!! Where da soul foo' at? I need me some collad greens n' fry ckicken.

[somebodymiami]

thanks, i took mine from google maps in overtown and Brownsville/wynwood

you actually go and take pics with a car?

Originally Posted by ddrox08

1, 3, 5, 10, 11, 14, and 21 in overtown


2, 17, and 20 in opa locka


4, 7, 8, 15, and 19 in lil haiti


6, 9, 12, 13, and 16 in liberty city


and 18 in carol city (their condo communities are pretty dirty)

[Chelsa1075]

I'm not sure exactly where I would rank the city, but coming from NYC, I am familiar with bad areas. However, I think southern poverty is on a different scale than the NE. Both are bad obviously, but NYC in the late 70's (when Ghetto's were Ghetto's) was a very different place from today. That poverty level, I believe has not changed as much for the southern states. I think the most impoverished place I have ever seen was Baltimore. I couldn't even believe people actually lived like that.

[lbmommy]

Chicago projects, New Orleans, even pre-Katrina, areas in Indianapolis Indiana, these are areas I have seen that are just as bad, or worse. People don't know they are there because they get ignored. Take a wrong turn and BOOM- 3rd world country. I've seen "houses" that were little more than sheet metal with a mailbox in the front yard. I think the desolate sand makes it look worse. But what would you rather see- knee high weeds infested with rats or dirt?

[Ladywithafan]

Looks like Bradenton's hood to me.