Let the Coral Gables' Cuban junta take over Havana? Let America's 'vulture capitalists' destroy Cuba? (Miami: house, restaurants)

[blank check]

Originally Posted by northernyankee

How much or what can any prudent, intelligent person say about "cuban juntas, vulture capitalists and cuba". It's a loaded statement with obvious triggers in place.

You obviously don't know how things work down here... I agree with the OP that American capitalists would destroy Cuba and turn it into another Puerto Rico...

[northernyankee]

Originally Posted by blank check

You obviously don't know how things work down here... I agree with the OP that American capitalists would destroy Cuba and turn it into another Puerto Rico...

How do things work down there?

[northernyankee]

Originally Posted by blank check

You obviously don't know how things work down here... I agree with the OP that American capitalists would destroy Cuba and turn it into another Puerto Rico...

From what I've seen Cuba has already been destroyed. And turning Cuba into another Puerto Rico would be an improvement.

[burgler09]

Originally Posted by northernyankee

From what I've seen Cuba has already been destroyed. And turning Cuba into another Puerto Rico would be an improvement.

Who really wants freedom and capitalism? It is much better to be politically oppressed and have to risk your life on a raft to get out of a country!

How is Puerto Rico bad due to the tourism? Isn't the non-tourist spots the places where it is not safe to go? I'd like to see Puerto Rico without any US help.

[northernyankee]

Originally Posted by burgler09

Who really wants freedom and capitalism? It is much better to be politically oppressed and have to risk your life on a raft to get out of a country!

How is Puerto Rico bad due to the tourism? Isn't the non-tourist spots the places where it is not safe to go? I'd like to see Puerto Rico without any US help.

Ok. I'm lost. I don't know how this relates to my remarks about Cuba.

[northernyankee]

Originally Posted by northernyankee

Ok. I'm lost. I don't know how this relates to my remarks about Cuba.

Ok. Disregard my last remark. I comprehend what you were saying, after I read it twice.
Yes. Keeping US interests and involvement out of many places around the world more than likely expotentially be a good thing. However, most of the world is already (and has been) under US controlled for quite sometime.
When you control the world monetary system, you control the world.

[Cougar Beach]

Originally Posted by northernyankee

Ok. Disregard my last remark. I comprehend what you were saying, after I read it twice.
Yes. Keeping US interests and involvement out of many places around the world more than likely expotentially be a good thing. However, most of the world is already (and has been) under US controlled for quite sometime.
When you control the world monetary system, you control the world.

It's not that simple. It's not like the U.S. says "Jump!" and the world asks "How high!", as you might have noticed in Iraq and Afghanistan. The U.S. didn't want Ho Chi Minh in South Vietnam. The failed overthrow of Hugo Chávez (not to mention the Venezuelan constitution and National Assembly) was supported by the U.S. The U.S. has wanted Castro out of Cuba for well over 40 years. For an entity that controls the world, the U.S. seems to fail a lot.

[northernyankee]

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About Vietnam, predominantly the U.S. and Great Britain sent Ho Chi Minh to N. Vietnam so that the U.S. and GB could help the French leave S. Vietnam reference the Geneva accord at the end of the French War.
About Chavez and Castro, which are about as irrelevant as they come (in the US and elsewhere).
JFK. never even spoke to Castro during the Cuban missile crisis. JFK only spoke to Khruschev.
Castro was just too insignificant. And about the alleged Chavez overthrow, which is mostly communist propaganda and disinformation which is what communists are really good at.

And finally to my point. If you read the last sentence where I finalize my thoughts and post. You'll notice that I was refering to economic interests and control in the majority of the world, pertaining to MONETARY SYSTEMS. COMPRENDO?

[Cougar Beach]

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which in your words is, "When you control the world monetary system, you control the world." I'm not sure how you think most people would interpret "control the world". Did you mean to say, "When you control the world monetary system, you control the world monetary system?"

Were you expressing a tautology?

> And finally to my point. If you read the last sentence where I finalize my thoughts and post. You'll notice that I was refering to economic interests and control in the majority of the world, pertaining to MONETARY SYSTEMS. COMPRENDO?

You obviously did not express yourself clearly. That tautology again. In the context of the discussion in this thread, that was a non-sequitur. I suggest you get your ducks lined up before you start throwing around insults.

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As for the trivia...

Yes, Vietnam had a history, but by the 60's the U.S. wanted Ho Chi Minh to stay out of South Vietnam. They wanted South Vietnam to remain a sovereign entity. The U.S. did not get its way. As much military and financial pressure they could exercise, they still did not succeed.

Likewise with Cuba, minus the big above-the-board war.

Castro was relevant when Russian missiles were deployed to Cuba. When Chavez has a lot of oil money, he is relevant. But of course you missed the point, which is that the U.S. was not able to have its way politically with them. All the U.S. was able to do was make Cuba suffer economically for decades.

> Chavez overthrow, which is mostly communist propaganda and disinformation which is what communists are really good at.

Yes, I'm sure you have the real truth, informed by some crackpot conspiracy fixation. It must be that those wily commies are a lot smarter than we are. (That was sarcasm.)

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It might be better if you'd get a little less defensive, and learn to explain your ideas a little better. You still haven't made a coherent point, other than the tautology I cited.

[Cougar Beach]

LA Times opinion: Obama should seize the chance to normalize relations with Havana.

Reach out to Cuba - Los Angeles Times