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Saw the Coral Gables site MIU.
The OP might have many valid points but I still don't get it.
When, where are these people meeting and who are they?
It seemed from the OP that this was something new and imminent.
I don't see this.
If it's what you are telling me, then it's the old wet dream of a decadent, greedy generation that is whistling past their own graveyards.
Nothing new.
There is an army of lawyers amassing in Coral Gables, Fl. I thought this would be an interesting forum to offer a good discussion about the future of Cuba.
They represent the interests of a few former land owning families from Cuba pre-1959. Are there people in Miami who believe that the forcible removal of Cubans from their homes to make way for -or to simply retake property that was once theirs is justified? I am afraid these few represented individuals and their 'families' will take over their Havana properties and forcibly evict thousands of Cubans who have lived on their properties for the better part of half a century.
There is nothing that would make me sicker than a Cuba with McDonalds, Taco Bell and Starbucks on every corner. Puerto Rico has totally prostituted itself to American levels of cheap corporatization and franchise monopolization. If the rich Miami Cubans buy (or forcibly overtake) vast tracts of prime Havana real estate ie the Malecon row buildings, Old Havana, 5th Ave. (embassy row) etc, and then give whatever's left - the scraps - to vulture corporatists who will build rows of fast food restaurants for 'ordinary Cubans' in the impoverished edges of La Habana, Cuba will forever be lost.
Its up to Cubans if they want Mcdonalds,Taco Bell or Starbucks .
If this is what they want than so be it again not up to others including Cubans here be it born there or not .
I suspect they will want ALL of it .It will create jobs and something that they dont have which are choices .
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"Puerto Rico has totally prostituted itself to American levels of cheap corporatization"
Its easy to have things here yet say its not good for others.
You have choices they should also. They are capable of deciding what they want.
Puerto Rico is still very much Puerto Rico with these things the rest of the world will also be fine with them .
If they dont want them they wont be there for long.
The concern should be if some of the S.Florida political Cosa Nostra slither their way there because a fast food place is easy enough to remove if not wanted but another CORRUPT politician in what can be a money making island is difficult to remove.
Considering the sewage bunch we have had in Cuba and the criminals we re-elect here over and over .I rather have another ethnicity run things there lol.
There can be a transition project. However, they are a bit too late, since there are many cubans living in MIA which own property in Cuba already and travel very often over there. By the time the TP gets there, the ones that have property already will have bought the most lucrative properties.
Guess they call it survival of the fittest? or the most corrupt?
In regards to PR, I agree we in PR have succumbed to american corporations. But no one has imposed that upon us. We have wanted them on the island, they came, we buy from them and thus they remain in power. Capitalism. And not only happens in PR but in Europe, Mexico, Brazil, etc etc. So I hope the TP can get there to enact laws preventing american corporations taking over, but its highly doubtful they can do it. Remember money talks....
There can be a transition project. However, they are a bit too late, since there are many cubans living in MIA which own property in Cuba already and travel very often over there....
I agreed with all the parts of your post where I know enough to agree or disagree.
Just wondering, the above part, is that anecdotal, do you know some of these people, is there a link to data?
That part I do not know.
Location: Lots of sun and palm trees with occasional hurricane :)
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There can be a transition project. However, they are a bit too late, since there are many cubans living in MIA which own property in Cuba already and travel very often over there. By the time the TP gets there, the ones that have property already will have bought the most lucrative properties.
Guess they call it survival of the fittest? or the most corrupt?
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I'm not sure about what you are claiming. I know people in Cuba and I know people here who travel to Cuba frequently. Some for family reasons, others to make money, as in what they call "mules". Be that as it may, I don't know of anyone who has been able to buy any property over there yet, because if that was possible, I would have done it myself. Yeah, I would. My ex-mother in law lives in a beach town, right by the famous Keys in the middle of the island, northern border, with the Spanish Hotel chains and all the amenities, where all the Europeans and Canadians hang out. She has instructions to keep an eye out for me for beachfront property. Nuttin happening.
The only thing you can do there is to transfer property. They call it "permuta". It's like trading/exchanging and it has to be approved by the "committee" of "they".
You don't want any building there. Whatever there might be has to be torn down and you (I) want what everybody wants. LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION.
You also want to make sure the infrastructure is there or will be there and you want to know who or what is going to be your neighbor.
I just re-read your comment and I agree, there are cubans here who own property in Cuba. Their parents may be living there, their kids, cousins, aunts, uncles, whoever. These Cubans, here or there, still cannot buy any other additional property.
Location: Lots of sun and palm trees with occasional hurricane :)
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Saw the Coral Gables site MIU.
The OP might have many valid points but I still don't get it.
When, where are these people meeting and who are they?
It seemed from the OP that this was something new and imminent.
I don't see this.
If it's what you are telling me, then it's the old wet dream of a decadent, greedy generation that is whistling past their own graveyards.
Nothing new.
Not sure what you're saying. Are you talking to me about the project? Are you talking to the OP? I don't know what you read. You do know that it is impossible for EVERYTHING to be published right?
All I care is that if they go to Cuba they leave Miami behind. The damage done to south Florida in the last few decades has been unbelievable. I agree that the current Cuban residents will largely be powerless to stop Americanization, as they embraced it before.
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