Should discontented white Americans (the very few left) just pack up and leave? (Miami: fences, safer)

[crisp444]

Originally Posted by blank check

reason I haven't seen the words Euro and Hispanic next to each other is probably because they are almost mutually exclusive.

First of all, I'm surprised you've never heard of "Euro-Hispanic." The two words that make up the term are FAR from mutually exclusive. The Latin culture - of which the Hispanic culture, language (Spanish), and literary tradition is part - originated in Europe and can be found there in its purest form. "Hispanic" people have held onto this European language and culture moreso than non-"Hispanic" people of European origin in this country. Even mestizos, who are by blood only partially "white" or "European" may be very European in culture. Among the Colombian and Venezuelan communities in South Florida, there are many affluent whites, but also many affluent and middle class mestizos. It is a misconception that all mestizos are poor. I agree that the Hispanic demographics in Miami-Dade are changing (there actually are working class Hispanic areas in the City of Miami and even in a few of the suburbs where the majority of the people walking on the street do not appear to be white -- this wasn't the case when I was a kid), but the fact that the Hispanic demographics of the city aren't so lily-white as they used to be isn't necessarily a bad thing. Plenty of mestizos live in West Kendall / Hammocks / Kendale Lakes and keep well-maintained middle class properties and are good, law-abiding citizens.

Furthermore, an influx of more Euro-Hispanics to this country could happen, as there are still MILLIONS of white Latin Americans living in Latin America itself. They still make up 35%+ of Latin America's population, so it's not like all the white Latins live in Miami...

[blank check]

Originally Posted by crisp444

First of all, I'm surprised you've never heard of "Euro-Hispanic." The two words that make up the term are FAR from mutually exclusive. The Latin culture - of which the Hispanic culture, language (Spanish), and literary tradition is part - originated in Europe and can be found there in its purest form. "Hispanic" people have held onto this European language and culture moreso than non-"Hispanic" people of European origin in this country. Even mestizos, who are by blood only partially "white" or "European" may be very European in culture. Among the Colombian and Venezuelan communities in South Florida, there are many affluent whites, but also many affluent and middle class mestizos. It is a misconception that all mestizos are poor. I agree that the Hispanic demographics in Miami-Dade are changing (there actually are working class Hispanic areas in the City of Miami and even in a few of the suburbs where the majority of the people walking on the street do not appear to be white -- this wasn't the case when I was a kid), but the fact that the Hispanic demographics of the city aren't so lily-white as they used to be isn't necessarily a bad thing. Plenty of mestizos live in West Kendall / Hammocks / Kendale Lakes and keep well-maintained middle class properties and are good, law-abiding citizens.

zzzzzzzzz

you're not saving the world kid.

[crisp444]

Originally Posted by blank check

zzzzzzzzz

you're not saving the world kid.

I acknowledge that this would be impossible on my part, so I write well-thought, informative posts that aim to chip away ingnorance and/or misinformation little-by-little. You're not the first person to insinuate that my posts are long and boring.... but whatever - hundreds of people have appreciated them and have let me know that by reputation and/or private message. I will gladly eradicate misinformation with my supposedly long and boring posts if I know that my posting is helping people... that is the primary reason I post on here at all.

[Jeff Jarrett]

The majority of Hispanics do not look White and even among the small minority who actually do look White, many of them feel insulted and will correct you in a heartbeat if you say that they are White. I remember there was an episode of Reno 911 where this crazy Black homeless lady referred to deputy James Garcia as a Whiteboy, and he corrected her by saying "ma'am I am not White I am Mexican."

[crisp444]

^^ "Being wrong in greater numbers doesn't make you any more right." ^^

[Jeff Jarrett]

^^ "Being wrong in greater numbers doesn't make you any more right." ^^

If most Hispanics look White than why is it that whenever there is a large group of Hispanics marching through the streets asking for amnesty for illegals, why do I see mostly people with Brown skin, the same thing goes for Puerto Rican pride parade and Cinco De Mayo parade, why is that ? Yet whenever I see a St. Patrick's day parade or an Oktoberfest parade for example, I see mostly people with pale skin.

Look at how lily White the St. Patrick crowd and Oktoberfest crowd look
http://timesunion.com/seen/seen2008/...k/photos/1.jpg
http://cooksister.typepad.com/photos...eglennanne.jpg

Crispy, does the Cinco De Mayo crowd and the Puerto Rican pride day crowd here look lily White to you ?
http://www.cocinandocon-nestle.com/n...wYork2_big.JPG
http://z.about.com/d/gomexico/1/0/O/...ling_girls.jpg

[planetsurf]

Originally Posted by crisp444

A similar argument extends to Miami. It is unbelievably insulting that some of you paint all "Hispanics"/"Cubans" with the same brush when many of the "Hispanics"/"Cubans" in South Florida are Americans born and raised here who do not even necessarily speak Spanish and/or identify with the Latin culture.

Or how many families are half hispanic and half non... It just gets silly after a while.

Someone posted pretty accurately that S Dade (and these "arguments" always seem to be centered around S Dade while dismissing places like Aventura) ... many of the white, blue eyed folks have been replaced by the white, brown eyed white folks.
WHO CARES what eye color people have or what language they speak at home! It's just the small minded people feeling "oppressed."

[crisp444]

Originally Posted by Jeff Jarrett

If most Hispanics look White than why is it that whenever there is a large group of Hispanics marching through the streets asking for amnesty for illegals, why do I see mostly people with Brown skin, the same thing goes for Puerto Rican pride parade and Cinco De Mayo parade, why is that ? Yet whenever I see a St. Patrick's day parade or an Oktoberfest parade for example, I see mostly people with pale skin.

Look at how lily White the St. Patrick crowd and Oktoberfest crowd look
http://timesunion.com/seen/seen2008/...k/photos/1.jpg
http://cooksister.typepad.com/photos...eglennanne.jpg

Crispy, does the Cinco De Mayo crowd and the Puerto Rican pride day crowd here look lily White to you ?
http://www.cocinandocon-nestle.com/n...wYork2_big.JPG
http://z.about.com/d/gomexico/1/0/O/...ling_girls.jpg

Consult my post history. Read it over and over and over again until your eyes bleed; I don't care, just read and comprehend it before you come back to me with crap like this. I refuse to waste 15 minutes of my time explaining concepts that I have already eloquently explained several times over. If the concepts of which I speak are really that over your head, please do not even bother to comment on what I say; it will save both you and me time and frustration.

[crisp444]

Originally Posted by planetsurf

Or how many families are half hispanic and half non... It just gets silly after a while.

Someone posted pretty accurately that S Dade (and these "arguments" always seem to be centered around S Dade while dismissing places like Aventura) ... many of the white, blue eyed folks have been replaced by the white, brown eyed white folks.
WHO CARES what eye color people have or what language they speak at home! It's just the small minded people feeling "oppressed."

Agreed. The stupidity and ignorance one encounters on these forums never ceases to amaze me.

[blank check]

Originally Posted by crisp444

Consult my post history. Read it over and over and over again until your eyes bleed; I don't care, just read and comprehend it before you come back to me with crap like this. I refuse to waste 15 minutes of my time explaining concepts that I have already eloquently explained several times over. If the concepts of which I speak are really that over your head, please do not even bother to comment on what I say; it will save both you and me time and frustration.

The people in the second group of pictures were not white, and if you think they are white Hispanics or Euro-Hispanic or whatever Politically Correct term you can concoct, you are loco.