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01-27-2009, 03:32 PM
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Wow, still cant admit that there's a serious problem, can you? Not only does the article list Miami as number 1, but others here are saying that it is a lot worse here than any other places they have lived. Not even being able to admit that there's a problem, is a problem. You have probably lived in Miami for quite some time now, and just dont realize how bad it is and how it isnt normal to almost "average one hit and run per week," as the article clearly states.
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01-27-2009, 03:35 PM
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Wow, still cant admit that there's a serious problem, can you? Not only does the article list Miami as number 1, but others here are saying that it is a lot worse here than any other places they have lived. Not even being able to admit that there's a problem, is a problem. You have probably lived in Miami for quite some time now, and just dont realize how bad it is and how it isnt normal to almost "average one hit and run per week," as the article clearly states.
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That's what I said when I first came on here... These people are so caught up in the Miami way that they don't know what goes on north of SE Flaw-rida and especially Mee-hami.
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01-27-2009, 03:46 PM
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That's what I said when I first came on here... These people are so caught up in the Miami way that they don't know what goes on north of SE Flaw-rida and especially Mee-hami.
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Yes, I am thinking the same thing Libre. I guess it's just normal now and some of the folks in Miami just assume it's that bad everywhere, where clearly, it doesnt get much worse.
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01-27-2009, 03:51 PM
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Wow, still cant admit that there's a serious problem, can you? Not only does the article list Miami as number 1, but others here are saying that it is a lot worse here than any other places they have lived. Not even being able to admit that there's a problem, is a problem. You have probably lived in Miami for quite some time now, and just dont realize how bad it is and how it isnt normal to almost "average one hit and run per week," as the article clearly states.
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You continue your lovely assumptions about me. As I said forehand, I think they are stupid but I'll reply to these. I moved back to Miami 5 years ago, before that I lived in Houston and San Francisco between those years also in Miami, but was originally born and raised in DC.
You also assume what I think and contemplate on this clear issue. I have never denied its a problem, its just stupid to make it a Miami problem, which is what alot of people here love to dwell on.
Please try to go back and read what I already said about the per capita figures, the way the New Times article reported on it was incredibly skewed, Ive repeated myself many times and you still make it clear you don't get it.
The one hit and run per week is an ideal much like babies are born every #seconds or someone dies every #second or # of people move to Florida every day. Its just a leveled view of the per capita figures.
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Yes, I am thinking the same thing Libre. I guess it's just normal now and some of the folks in Miami just assume it's that bad everywhere, where clearly, it doesnt get much worse.
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Wow. Says plenty.
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01-27-2009, 03:55 PM
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From the Miami New Times article:
"So why are there so many hit-and-runs here? Probably the biggest contributing factor is the high rate of uninsured motorists on Miami-Dade roadways, says Lt. Pat Santangelo of the Florida Highway Patrol. "Sometimes they are illegals and don't have a license, much less insurance.
In Florida about one in five drivers is uninsured. In Miami that number is at least 25 percent higher."
My zip code, 33139, has among the highest car insurance rates (if not the highest) in the country. An insurance agent told me it was because of the high number of uninsured drivers here. This is one of the downsides of poverty with no decent public transit. There seem to be a lot of inebriated drivers here as well; I don't know how the rate compares with the rest of the country.
Insurance is required for vehicle registration, so a lot of people get insurance when they renew, then let it lapse after a month.
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01-27-2009, 04:00 PM
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From the Miami New Times article:
"So why are there so many hit-and-runs here? Probably the biggest contributing factor is the high rate of uninsured motorists on Miami-Dade roadways, says Lt. Pat Santangelo of the Florida Highway Patrol. "Sometimes they are illegals and don't have a license, much less insurance.
In Florida about one in five drivers is uninsured. In Miami that number is at least 25 percent higher."
My zip code, 33139, has among the highest car insurance rates (if not the highest) in the country. An insurance agent told me it was because of the high number of uninsured drivers here. This is one of the downsides of poverty with no decent public transit. There seem to be a lot of inebriated drivers here as well; I don't know how the rate compares with the rest of the country.
Insurance is required for vehicle registration, so a lot of people get insurance when they renew, then let it lapse after a month.
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Yea, car insurance rates say it all. My car was over twice as expensive to insure in semi-suburban "Mee-hami" as it was in downtown Chicago. I would rep you if I had the power...
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01-27-2009, 04:01 PM
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For folks who are bickering about statistics, chew on this:
Bad Analysis: August 2006
I haven't commented on the statistical methodology of the report that was cited, since I haven't found the report itself. I would not rely on the interpretation of a random newspaper reporter.
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01-27-2009, 04:05 PM
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Yea, car insurance rates say it all. My car was over twice as expensive to insure in semi-suburban "Mee-hami" as it was in downtown Chicago. I would rep you if I had the power...
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For almost exactly identical coverage with the same insurance company (Amica), my rates just about doubled when I moved from coastal New Hampshire to South Beach.
Speaking of which, I think it's time to get rid of collision coverage. My car is now not worth very much.
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01-27-2009, 04:07 PM
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Yes, I am thinking the same thing Libre. I guess it's just normal now and some of the folks in Miami just assume it's that bad everywhere, where clearly, it doesnt get much worse.
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It is a coping mechenism for some. If you believe everywhere is as bad as where you live then you won't feel so bad about your city since it is just "average". How many times have we heard the deniers on here say "Other cities have the same problems". They don't dare admit, even to theirselves, that Miami is one of the worst cities in the US with the rudest people.
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01-27-2009, 06:04 PM
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I am so tired of the "it's a problem everywhere" BS mentality...I call it sweeping it under the rug. Julian, why do you continue to deny this extremely serious problem? Take your rose tinted spectacles off for just one second and see REALITY. Will it take one of the many Miami-driver-scumbags to "hit and run" you or someone you love for you (and so many others) to WAKE UP?
"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem"
With that in mind, sweeping the problem under the rug makes you part of the problem. People who post here to express their anger and frustration on a forum read by potentially thousands of people is better than staying silent, but we really need to make ourselves heard by our politicians and law enforcement agencies.
The drivers here are so reckless that it makes going anywhere here a trying experience. I had to use one of the Deathways today and almost got rear-ended. Every day, I see multiple examples of reckless driving that could potentially cause a very major accident (I am not imagining this).
So keep sweeping the problem under the rug until it happens to YOU or someone you love, then let's see if you'll be so quick to defend the scum population of this rathole city, filled with self-absorbed maniacs.
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