Is Miami more like an American city or a 'Latin' American city? (Hialeah: fit in, restaurants)

[Your.Decision]

Originally Posted by TheJetSet

Please at least pull up some census data.

Hmm....I've lived in the "real" Miami for over 8 years (not Miami Beach) and I don't see this "diversity" that he is talking about. If such a diverse collective of cultures and ethnicities exist here, they must be hiding

[polo89]

Originally Posted by TheJetSet;15042663[COLOR=Red

]Another question, if Spanish and Portuguese are originally from Europe and invaded the indigenous people in what's now called south and central America what exactly are the differences besides country borders? [/color]You either speak spanish or portugese for the most part can people trace their background pre spanish/portuguese invasion? How many distinct tribes/families were there, genetically and culturally?

Pigmentation, Cuisine, Housing, Music, Clothing etc. There not gonna eat the same things they did in Europe, because of different climate, different creatures, same thing as clothing, different climate.

[polo89]

Originally Posted by Your.Decision

Hmm....I've lived in the "real" Miami for over 8 years (not Miami Beach) and I don't see this "diversity" that he is talking about. If such a diverse collective of cultures and ethnicities exist here, they must be hiding

What is the real Miami? Is Miami Beach some hologram created by mad scientist in Tallahassee to attract tourist to the state? You sound like Rick Ross.

[FlyMIA]

Originally Posted by Your.Decision

Hmm....I've lived in the "real" Miami for over 8 years (not Miami Beach) and I don't see this "diversity" that he is talking about. If such a diverse collective of cultures and ethnicities exist here, they must be hiding

Exactly by the real Miami you must mean the Cuban Miami. There is a lot more diversity out there in other parts of the city like Miami Beach.
I really dont feel like searching for census data now. Maybe this weekend.

[WestbankNOLA]

If it helps anything....

Originally Posted by Lifeshadower

I have taken it upon myself to calculate the ethnic composition by the top 10 most prolific nationality/ancestry for our nation's most populated metropolitan areas.
*11. Miami MSA (Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL Metro Area - Selected Social Characteristics in the United States: 2006-2008)

1. Cuban: 16.4% of the population
2. African American: 9.9% of the population
3. German: 6.4% of the population
4. Italian: 6.1% of the population
5. Irish: 6.1% of the population
6. Haitian (Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL Metro Area - Selected Population Profile in the United States (Haitian (336-359)) 4.9% of the population
7. English: 4.4% of the population
8. American: 4.1% of the population
9. Puerto Rican: 3.6% of the population
10. Colombian: 3.4% of the population (Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL Metro Area - Selected Population Profile in the United States (Colombian))

Top 10 total: 59.2% of the population

[polo89]

Originally Posted by WestbankNOLA

If it helps anything....

Yeah, that's the thread I was talking about.

[metrowester]

Hey! Don't rank Orlando with Jacksonville!!! Miami is very latin, but Orlando is extremely latin as well. And Orlando does have true nightlife/club scene. Orlando is home of a couple of Publix "Sabor" grocery stores and Miami based Sedanos grocery stores and home of the Bravo supermarket chain. The Orlando latino population is mostly Puerto Rican or Newyorican and in the past ten years, Dominicano. Lots of Columbians as well. Miami is a world of its own I know. But don't rank Orlando with the southern city of Jacksonville. Orlando is more than twice as large as Jax, much more diverse than Jax, trendier than Jax, etc. All said, Miami is still more of an American city than Latin American city, based on lifestyle, government, etc. Although Miami may have some rough neighborhoods, there are no "shanty towns". It's more a case of taking a bunch of Latin Americans and placing them in an American city. Besides language and the beautiful tropical location, go in to a Miami residents home and you will see besides the language that may be spoken, it will be similar to any other American household. Miami residents participate in the American government process like voting and following American politics. The infrastructre of Miami-Dade is American. I suppose when visiting Miami you may feel like you are in another country. Miami-Dade is not like LA at all. LA is more segregated, in Miami hispanics pretty much make up the population. Miami is hot and humid, LA is dry. The wealthy areas of LA have more of an English speaking population, in Miami they have more of a Latino population. And major celebrities of the English speaking world live in LA, whereas most of the permanent celebrity population in Miami are from the Latin speaking world. Latin movie stars, music stars, TV stars, Telemundo, etc. But Miami is still proudly American!

[TheJetSet]

Originally Posted by WestbankNOLA

If it helps anything....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lifeshadower
I have taken it upon myself to calculate the ethnic composition by the top 10 most prolific nationality/ancestry for our nation's most populated metropolitan areas.
*11. Miami MSA (Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL Metro Area - Selected Social Characteristics in the United States: 2006-2008)

1. Cuban: 16.4% of the population
2. African American: 9.9% of the population
3. German: 6.4% of the population
4. Italian: 6.1% of the population
5. Irish: 6.1% of the population
6. Haitian (Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL Metro Area - Selected Population Profile in the United States (Haitian (336-359)) 4.9% of the population
7. English: 4.4% of the population
8. American: 4.1% of the population
9. Puerto Rican: 3.6% of the population
10. Colombian: 3.4% of the population (Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL Metro Area - Selected Population Profile in the United States (Colombian))

Top 10 total: 59.2% of the population

Did you guys even look at the data? Seems like someone is just picking and choosing to paint a rosy picture.

FlyMia was just saying that he/she doesn't consider those born and/or raised here to be representative of those foreign countries they can trace their lineage to.

So with that criteria, Miami is far from diverse, why not look at the foreign born data?

Miami

Miami -- WORLD REGION OF BIRTH OF FOREIGN BORN
Foreign-born population, excluding population born at sea


1,994,677 +/-13,055 1,994,677 (X)






Europe 133,491 +/-3,987 6.7% +/-0.2




Asia 102,277 +/-3,625 5.1% +/-0.2




Africa 20,642 +/-2,094 1.0% +/-0.1


Latin
America 1,698,614 +/-11,289 85.2% +/-0.3

For example Washington D.C.

WASHINGTON D.C. -- WORLD REGION OF BIRTH OF FOREIGN BORN
Foreign-born population, excluding population born at sea




1,073,591 +/-9,818 1,073,591 (X)


Europe 106,988 +/-3,647 10.0% +/-0.3


Asia 379,899 +/-4,465 35.4% +/-0.4


Africa 151,259 +/-6,919 14.1% +/-0.6


Latin
America 419,720 +/-4,396 39.1% +/-0.4

[polo89]

Originally Posted by TheJetSet

Did you guys even look at the data? Seems like someone is just picking and choosing to paint a rosy picture.

FlyMia was just saying that he/she doesn't consider those born and/or raised here to be representative of those foreign countries they can trace their lineage to.

So with that criteria, Miami is far from diverse, why not look at the foreign born data?

Miami







For example Washington D.C.

The other data was clear as day also. You basically just did the same thing, but reverse, you painted a picture to fit your version. You ignore different nationalities to make a place look more homogeneous then it really is.

[polo89]

Miami's a Beta World City for a reason.