Ahhh... is a move to Miami insane? (Hialeah, Hollywood: apartment, crime rate)

[Chrome Microphone]

Originally Posted by BCreass

Diversity isn't overrated...not true diversity, where everyone at least shares one common language. No, MIAMI is overrated, period.

Someone mentioned Alpharetta, GA. Been there once and wiuld gladly swap living here for there. Drivers generally don't kill in Atlanta and Atlanta is very much a part of the United States.

Amen to that!

[EnjoyTheSilence]

Originally Posted by Chrome Microphone

Miami has a lot of Hispanics and Haitians, fewer African Americans, Whites, Asians... I guess that is diverse, I'm just thinking Miami has so many Hispanics, it doesnt leave much room for others. But like I said, I think diversity is no big deal, and I think it's over-rated. I like places like Alpharetta, and the fact that it's so easy to identify and talk to the people, without knowing Spanish, Creole, and whatever else language you have to listen to in places like Miami....

I think people need to drop the notion that Miami is diverse; it's not. Miami is Hispanic, period. It has a very impoverished black population, that are generally treated like garbage by the Cuban arrivals, and the irony is that the black people have been here far longer than the Cuban immigrants, who arrived relatively recently.

A diverse city is a city that has different ethnic groups, i.e. Chinese, Irish, Italians, Russians, Puerto Ricans, etc. Where are the Chinese, Russian, Irish and Italian neighborhoods in Miami? Answer: nowhere, because they don't exist! I've seen the odd Chinese person here or there, but that's about it.

So please, tell me, how is Miami "diverse", because it's mainly just Hispanic?

[crisp444]

Reread my post on page 15 if you want an explanation of how Miami-Dade County is diverse. Also, Miami-Dade County is VERY MUCH a part of the United States, just as much as Atlanta is. To claim that Miami is not part of this country is insulting to all of the born-and-raised Americans from Miami and also insulting to Miami's foreign born residents who chose to come to THE UNITED STATES to pursue their dreams. If you don't like Miami, move to Atlanta; maybe you'll be happier there.

[induhvidual]

Originally Posted by crisp444

Reread my post on page 15 if you want an explanation of how Miami-Dade County is diverse. Also, Miami-Dade County is VERY MUCH a part of the United States, just as much as Atlanta is. To claim that Miami is not part of this country is insulting to all of the born-and-raised Americans from Miami and also insulting to Miami's foreign born residents who chose to come to THE UNITED STATES to pursue their dreams. If you don't like Miami, move to Atlanta; maybe you'll be happier there.

I must spread the rep around before awarding it to crisp again, but this cannot stop me from giving crisp a big fat rep here.
Well said

[rogerbacon]

Originally Posted by BCreass

I think people need to drop the notion that Miami is diverse; it's not. Miami is Hispanic, period.

So true. So true. They think Miami is diverse because it has Hispanics from 30 different countries. LOL.

Tell me, if you went to Shenzhen, China and found that 61% of the population was Han Chinese, and the other 39% were made up of other ethnic groups such as Hui Chinese, Zhuang Chinese, Manchu Chinese and Hui Chinese would you consider it diverse? I'm sure the Chinese would but a foreigner would not.
To a typical White person in Miami we can't tell the difference, nor do we care to, between Cubans, Colombians, Equedorans, Bolivians, etc. It's all just one big block of "Hispanic". Can you see now why we don't think Miami is diverse?

[muscleman305]

Originally Posted by tallrick

Generally the older the area the less cookie cutter it is. The newer zero-lot line developments or condo style have no hope of ever being more than cookie cutter. My rule for south Florida is bigger lot, more desireable. That rule has never failed. Smaller lot, location matters. Condo, stay far away.

I completely agree 100%, houses with historic significance will always sell no matter how cold the market is. New contsruction is very cheap and generic looking, its like comparing modern plastic cars with the old school cars with style and character, the newer stuff just looks plain and souless in comparison. Also you can always build up, but land, especially in South dade is finite. Unless our greedy politicians one day open up the everglades for development. which is already slowly starting to happen.

[muscleman305]

Hey guys I'm just wondering, did the original poster ever return and read the million and one comments we left her?

[crisp444]

Originally Posted by rogerbacon

So true. So true. They think Miami is diverse because it has Hispanics from 30 different countries. LOL.

Again, reread my post on page 15 of this thread for an explanation of why Miami-Dade is diverse. Miami-Dade County is only about 60% "Hispanic" in the first place.

Originally Posted by rogerbacon

To a typical White person in Miami we can't tell the difference, nor do we care to, between Cubans, Colombians, Equedorans, Bolivians, etc. It's all just one big block of "Hispanic". Can you see now why we don't think Miami is diverse?

It took me all of 60 seconds to confirm my suspicion that you are lying that you cannot nor care to tell the difference between different "Hispanic" groups. A quick search of the first page of your post history alone reveals that you have distinguished between Cubans, Central Americans, and South Americans. As someone who is a long-time Miami-Dade resident you not only should know, but DO know, that long-time Cuban-Americans are a very distinct group from some newly-arrived Cubans and most newly-arrived, poor Central Americans.

[Rock Newman]

Originally Posted by doggiebus

SO TRUE! Most of the people I grew up with that come back to visit, say to me "What are you still doing do there, how can you stand it?" What I have also noticed is that many of the people that moved to Miami with in the last 5 years, that I have met, have left South Florida after really getting to know it already. I would say most stay on average about 3 years.

Doggie , you make some interesting posts .. but I have to take issue with your always "lumping " all of South Florida with Miami .. when my family and I moved here from California we lived in Cooper City for a year ( it was nice ) then Weston for four years ( loved it ) and now Parkland
( love it even more ) and none of these cities is anything like Miami , in look or in feel or culture . I do feel that Miami is a fun place with great nightlife and some interesting and beautiful landscapes , but I do agree that it is not the best place to raise a family as there is simply to much thug culture for my taste as well as materialism in the nicerr areas ... but if you spent some time in Cooper City , Weston , Parkland , Coral Springs , Palm Beach Gardens , Jupiter , Boca or Wellington you might have a different perception of South Florida .. all are great places to live and raise a family and not much different from So California which you seem to worship . We lived in Valencia , Ca for several years and although we miss the mild weather and laid back atmosphere .. I would not go back and change Parkland for Valencia . Again just an observation as I do not like to mislead people and feel it is unfair to mix and match Miami and all of South Florida .

[Rock Newman]

Originally Posted by Chrome Microphone

Amen to that!

Be careful , what you wish for my brother in law moved to Alpharetta with his family from Coral Springs three years ago and wants to move back to Florida .. preferably either a town like Lakeland or Ponte Vedra .. he claims that people were superficial , phony , crime was high at least as bad as anywhere in South Florida , there are serious racial tensions ( MIAMI anyone ? ) terrible air quality , issues with lack of water and terrible , terrible , traffic that makes I-95 look like kindergarten ... I go to the Atlanta area frequently on business and it is ok ... I like Mid Town and Buckhead ... but Alpaheretta is just another upscale burb like one of the many in South Florida . I would suggest Charlotte or even Birmingham as nice up and coming Southern cities ... but Atlanta is losing its luster in the opinion of many .. my family included . Did I fail to mention that the Georgia school system is even ranked lower than Floriduhs !!!