2007 Miami Racial Make-up (Hialeah, Miami Beach, Coral Gables: living, vs., statistics)

[crisp444]

Originally Posted by Eduardo983

USA is not considered a white country by Europeans.

Does it matter whether the USA is considered a "white" country? I could tell you that most people wouldn't consider Venezuela to be a "white" country either, but honestly, that doesn't matter either. The point is that there are plenty of non-mixed or relatively non-mixed descendants of Europeans living in the Americas. "White" goes by person, not by country.

[Leovigildo]

Crisp

Bunch of Cubans and Latins in those places, a bunch of Europeans.
Key Biscayne is packed with Latins, a lot of Spanish people there that bought recently.
Brickell, Argentinians, a lot of them.
Venezuelans are buying everything.
Bal Harbour, European and Central Americans (rich), etc.
Cutler Bay, is that Cutler Ridge?, mostly Cuban, so is Coral Gables.
I guess that most are second generation, fleeing from SW and from recent migrants.
I suppose that many of those people are Europeans, not Americans, or Brazilians and Argentinians, many of German stock.
Many people here are buying property there, you can buy a house for the price of a "parking space" in Barcelona, buy many shy away when they find about property taxes, insurance, etc.

[crisp444]

Originally Posted by Leovigildo

Crisp

Bunch of Cubans and Latins in those places, a bunch of Europeans.
Key Biscayne is packed with Latins, a lot of Spanish people there that bought recently.
Brickell, Argentinians, a lot of them.
Venezuelans are buying everything.
Bal Harbour, European and Central Americans (rich), etc.
Cutler Bay, is that Cutler Ridge?, mostly Cuban, so is Coral Gables.
I guess that most are second generation, fleeing from SW and from recent migrants.
I suppose that many of those people are Europeans, not Americans, or Brazilians and Argentinians, many of German stock.
Many people here are buying property there, you can buy a house for the price of a "parking space" in Barcelona, buy many shy away when they find about property taxes, insurance, etc.

I am aware of all of that. I am originally from Miami, grew up there, and still visit a few times a year. I am also very familiar with Spain because I studied at the Universidad Autónoma de Madrid and have family and friends living in and around the capital. You are correct that property in South Florida is extremely inexpensive compared with similar property in large cities in Spain.

[Leovigildo]

Crisp

All that stuff about "being white" comes from America, also from Latin America.

I mean, here you're from Scotland, from Wales, from Piomonte, from Poland, but nobody speaks in terms of being white or not because you're Catholic, or Celtic, or Slavic, Greek.

Americans inherited the Black Spanish Legend and all the Protestant propaganda against the Catholic Counter-Reform and the 30 years war, the English propaganda against the Armada and against Spanish Catholics...but that was in the 16th Century....

According to the English in those times, Spanish were not civilized, not Europeans and were "cruel" etc, etc. And for Spain, England was a place inhabited by thiefs and barbaric people.

Quite curious. Americans are anchored in the XV and XVI Century, and many of those rural Americans are living frozen in those years. Amazing.

[Leovigildo]

Crisp

Yes, as compared to Madrid and Barcelona, very cheap.
But Property Taxes there are crazy, and insurance.

[crisp444]

The label of "white" is pretty meaningless, but many Americans would be reluctant to give up using it.

[JackTheRipper]

Originally Posted by Eduardo983

What`s the source of this info?

White persons not Hispanic, (17.9%) ???

Where are these people hidden??? lol

What the hell? .

[Leovigildo]

Crisp

Yes, many European Americans, many European Latin Americans, many European South Africans, many Europeans from Argelia, etc.

I guess they are colonizers in a foreign land.

But now is the other way around....

Well, the last Europeans died 28.000 years ago, the Neanderthals.

Homo Sapiens arrived here from Africa 35.000 years ago or even less.

[cuba libre]

Originally Posted by Leovigildo

Crisp

Yes, many European Americans, many European Latin Americans, many European South Africans, many Europeans from Argelia, etc.

I guess they are colonizers in a foreign land.

But now is the other way around....

Well, the last Europeans died 28.000 years ago, the Neanderthals.

Homo Sapiens arrived here from Africa 35.000 years ago or even less.

Don't worry. Crisp likes to make out of towners believe that Miami is a white mecca where there are few Mestizos and Spanish is a minority language.

No, scratch that. Crisp would question the legality of the word 'Mestizo' and call it racially offensive or something to that effect. The truth is that 50% of Miami could be mistaken as Mestizo by an impartial outsider.

[crisp444]

Cuba Libra, when I do one of my tri-annual visits to Miami this summer, I would like to invite on a ride with me. I don't know if you know this, but my family has a helicopter that takes me between Islamorada, South Pointe (Miami Beach), and Brickell.... once and a while I make a pit stop in Coral Gables or Coconut Grove, and about once a year I like to "keep it real" by swinging the old barrio in Hialeah Gardens. I would like you to join me in my fantasy Miami where there is no traffic, there are no poor people, everyone is perfectly fluent in English and Spanish. All of the problems of which people complain on this board do not exist, as I live a life of privileged, blissful ignorance. And if you call me out on this, I'll just say that you're unreasonable and that thus I do not need to even consider your opinion. If it's a factual issue, of course I am right, you are wrong, and only good statistics will convince me otherwise. Oh, papacito, you know me all too well. Will you join me for a tour of my Miami? We'll have fun, but just remember that if you anger me, I'll have to throw you down into the seventh circle of hell: Sweetwater. ¿De acuerdo?

**Warning for anyone reading this post and wondering what is going on: the content of this post is facetious in nature**