Doral Named Second Best Place to live in the U.S. (Miami: foreclosures, mortgages)

[EnjoyTheSilence]

Originally Posted by runswithscissors

When I was thinking about taking a job on 79th by the Mall, I drove around and go so sick of being STOPPED IN TRAFFIC I didn't even bother to stay. I had a list of apts to check, on in Doral because it had a screened porch and said forget this.

I was stuck 20 minutes in the high rise complex exit across from the mall just waiting my turn to get out of there.

I woulda had to live there just to get across the street to work in under an hour in my impression LOL.

Doral was very poorly planned, IMO. Like much of Miami in general, it expanded way too quickly, without much thought being given to seriously improving roads & mass transit. As for traffic, the problem is that going east/west, there are really only 2 major routes through Doral (NW 25th Street and NW 36th Street). Both these routes get majorly backed up due to them being used by both private and a large number of commercial vehicles. Also, both these routes lead to the ever-clogged Palmetto Expressway, which causes traffic to back up for miles.

In fact, the whole area around MIA is one giant bottleneck. If you live/work near Doral or Blue Lagoon, you'll know what I mean. Having MIA smack in the middle of all of it doesn't help, which is why I believe that Miami should have built a brand new airport 3 decades ago, or at least imrpoved the ever-clogged Palmetto/Dolphin interchange, which is 40 years out of date.

[PBCboy]

Originally Posted by cuba libre

Ditto. It's like they draw names out of a hat.

They probably felt obligated to give Doral that prestigious designation in the year of Obama due to its ethnic diversity (99% Hispanic). Even though the town is filled with greed merchants, credit manipulators, and generally slimy, ignorant, no-speakie English people, those sitting behind desks in Manhattan at Forbes magazine would never know the misery that living in (and especially driving through) Doral generates...

According to the 2006 stats Doral is 76.0% Hispanic, 8.6% white non-Hispanic, 4.9% Asian, 2.4% black and a few percent "other" or "mixed race". It doesn't help that the Doral jail's population is considered into the demographic info though.

[crisp444]

Originally Posted by PBCboy

According to the 2006 stats Doral is 76.0% Hispanic, 8.6% white non-Hispanic, 4.9% Asian, 2.4% black and a few percent "other" or "mixed race". It doesn't help that the Doral jail's population is considered into the demographic info though.

Where did you get those numbers? I can't find any census-backed 2006 estimates for Doral, but did find a website that does 2006 estimates. However, the non-Hispanic white percentages are way low (8.6 for Doral, 16.9 for Kendall?!?!?) and the "other" percentages are wayyy high (+/- 25% "other"?!?!?) for me to believe them. The most recent census number we have is that Doral is 24% non-Hispanic white, and I would be hard pressed to believe that the number is anything less than 15% in 2009. You must have gotten the 2006 data from the website that I saw, and for some of the places for which they have data, many of the non-Hispanic white residents are counted with "other."

[TatersFan]

HAHAHA!!! Paid for by Doral realtors?

All kidding aside, Doral is decent, but nothing special imo.

[Rock Newman]

Originally Posted by Eduardo983

Website (Article) America's Top 25 Towns To Live Well - Forbes.com

Slideshow(Article), In Depth: America's Top 25 Towns To Live Well - Forbes.com


Doral ranks 2nd, Coral Gables ranks 9th and Kendall ranks 25th. We have 3 of the best places to live in the U.S.


According to Forbes, "
These regions boast cultural amenities, pro-business environments, highly educated workforces and enviable salaries."

"Doral, Fla., ranks second. Thirteen miles west of downtown Miami, 35,336-population Doral offers mild weather and access to world-class golf courses. It also has one of the nation's highest concentrations of small businesses per capita, especially surrounding aerospace and logistics."

2. Doral, Fla.

Population: 35,336
Location: West of downtown Miami by 13 miles.
Median income: $70,895

Strongest categories: Doral is probably most famous for its world-class golf courses and resorts, but it's also a vibrant center of multinational importing and exporting businesses due to its proximity to the Miami airport. It ranks second for the number of sole proprietors running their own business and third for its share of young and educated workers. Thanks to the resort communities and high-end clientele, it also ranks toward the top for restaurants per capita.

Drawbacks: While there is plenty of entrepreneurial and smal- business activity in Doral, there aren't many cutting-edge companies developing new technologies or creating new fields. Its rank for venture capital cash and patents are low, despite its third place ranking for start-ups.


According to the Doral Website,

City of Doral - for all the right reasons! - Home
City of Doral - for all the right reasons! - Doral #2 in America's Top 25 Towns To Live Well


City of Doral-Named Second Best Place to live in the U.S. by FORBES.COM

Doral, Florida – City of Doral continues to receive national media attention and recognition with Forbes.com being the most recent business news network to single out Doral as one of the best places to live in the country.

In an article published on Forbes.com, on May 6th, 2009, Doral is reported as the second best place to live in the United States (outranked by Boulder, Colorado) due to its number of museums, parks, bars, restaurants and cultural institutions per capita, all factors indicative of a favorable business environment. These also include patents, venture capital funding, sole proprietorships, starts-ups and small businesses per capita. Forbes derived its data from ZoomProspector.com, a San Francisco-based consulting firm specializing in corporate relocation.

“This trend of accolades for the City of Doral began with CNNMoney.com naming Doral one of the top places in the U.S. to live and start a business and BusinessWeek reaching the same conclusion. The residents of Doral already know what the rest of the country is finding out, Doral is the best place to Live, Work, Learn and Play” commented City of Doral Mayor Juan Carlos Bermudez.

Forbes.com surmised that although Doral is probably most famous for its world-class golf courses and resorts, it is also a vibrant center of multinational importing and exporting businesses due to its proximity to the Miami airport. It ranks second for the number of sole proprietors running their own business and third for its share of young and educated workers. It also ranks toward the top for restaurants per capita due to the resort communities found in Doral and high-end clientele.


According to Wikipedia,

Wiki Website http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doral,_Florida

"For a city of its size, Doral has a large number of shops, financial institutions and businesses, especially importers and exporters, primarily because of its proximity to the Miami International Airport. In 2008, Fortune Small Business and CNN Money ranked Doral as 51 on a list of 100 cities with the best mix of business advantages and lifestyle appeal".

Doral Demographics,

Doral, Florida - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As of the census of 2000, The racial makeup of the CDP was 84.02% White (24% were Non-Hispanic White), 2.66% African American, 0.07% Native American, 5.08% Asian, 0.01% Pacific Islander, 4.36% from other races, and 3.78% from two or more races. hispanic or Latino of any race were 67.44% of the population. Doral is the most Venezuelan city in the United States, at 8.22% Venezuelan.

As of 2000, speakers of Spanish as a first language accounted for 74.50%, while English accounted for 16.15%, portuguese was spoken by 5.02%, Chinese made up 0.97%, Tamil was at 0.64%, Japanese at 0.52%, and Arabic was the mother tongue for 0.50% of the population.

As of 2000, Doral had the highest percentage of Venezuelans residents in the US, with 8.22% of the populace (Weston was the second highest, with 4.10% of the populace.)It had the thirty-third highest percentage of Cuban residents in the US, at 15.20% of the city's population,and the sixth highest percentage of Colombian residents in the US, at 8.71% of the its population.It also had the tenth most Peruvians in the US, at 2.95%,while it had the forty-eighth highest percentage of Dominicans, at 2.64% of all residents. It had the thirteenth highest concentration of Brazilians, with 2.50% of the city (tied with Newark, NJ and Oak Bluffs, Massachusetts.) Doral's Nicaraguan community had the twenty-sixth highest percentage of residents, which comprised 1.69% of the population. It is also home to the fifty-first highest percentage of Ecuadorian residents, which made up 1.18% of the population.


Forbes data, May 2009
Wiki data, year 2000.

Is this a joke .... only 8.22% of Doral's residents are Venezuelan ??

Also Doral as # 2 best place to live in the US ... is the author of this article at Forbes on crack ?

[PBCboy]

Originally Posted by crisp444

Where did you get those numbers? I can't find any census-backed 2006 estimates for Doral, but did find a website that does 2006 estimates. However, the non-Hispanic white percentages are way low (8.6 for Doral, 16.9 for Kendall?!?!?) and the "other" percentages are wayyy high (+/- 25% "other"?!?!?) for me to believe them. The most recent census number we have is that Doral is 24% non-Hispanic white, and I would be hard pressed to believe that the number is anything less than 15% in 2009. You must have gotten the 2006 data from the website that I saw, and for some of the places for which they have data, many of the non-Hispanic white residents are counted with "other."

They are from the U.S. census bureau here:
American FactFinder

The Miami Dade West jail population is also counted in Doral's general population though, even if most of the people incarcerated there don't actually live in Doral. I would assume that's why there's so much data missing.

Originally Posted by Rock Newman

Is this a joke .... only 8.22% of Doral's residents are Venezuelan ??

Also Doral as # 2 best place to live in the US ... is the author of this article at Forbes on crack ?

Forbes articles are based mostly on data and what sounds good on paper. Doral has the most Venezuelans in the U.S. with Weston behind it and a random scatted amount of cities throughout Miami-Dade following those two areas.

[tallrick]

I would rather live in Biscayne Gardens than Doral. If you like spanish try schenley park instead. Doral has absolutely nothing going for it. The homes are disgusting and the roads all lead to nowhere. It is a future ghetto in my opinion.

[Eduardo983]

Originally Posted by tallrick

I would rather live in Biscayne Gardens than Doral. If you like spanish try schenley park instead. Doral has absolutely nothing going for it. The homes are disgusting and the roads all lead to nowhere. It is a future ghetto in my opinion.

Please, don`t come to Doral...

Stay far far away in the keys.

[angelo7221]

I don't know what's worse.traipsing through the who's who of welders and scrap metal yards in Medley and getting dirt from 800 dump trucks on your car or finding out the quickest way to get to nw 74 st and 114 ave without using a helipcopter...

Perhaps the lovely new on-ramp to the freeway might help

BRO..DORAL IS DA **** DON'T HATE

[Rock Newman]

Originally Posted by PBCboy

They are from the U.S. census bureau here:
American FactFinder

The Miami Dade West jail population is also counted in Doral's general population though, even if most of the people incarcerated there don't actually live in Doral. I would assume that's why there's so much data missing.



Forbes articles are based mostly on data and what sounds good on paper. Doral has the most Venezuelans in the U.S. with Weston behind it and a random scatted amount of cities throughout Miami-Dade following those two areas.

I lived in Weston for several years and still frequent the area quite a bit .. but there are no where near as many Venezuelans in Weston as in Doral ... in fact many of the Venezuelans we knew in Weston have returned home due to economic problems and there seems to be less Venezuelans now in Weston than a few years ago .