Is the lack of English spoken by Miami's "new immigrants" a question of literacy? (Century: hotel, middle school)

[Leovigildo]

If I were him, I'd be exploring Barcelona, taking hundreds of shots of all that wonderful Gaudi architecture, or enjoying a walk on Las Ramblas. And if I got bored of that, I'd take a train to Madrid or Valencia, or I'd cross the border to Southern France and the Pyrenees Mountains, which are practically on his doorstep by US standards

But hey...I'm bored here in Miami, so I have an excuse for posting a lot.

Leo, do you want to trade places?
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I hate Gaudi, Ramblas are a dangerous place. I've been to those places that you mention 100 times. I don't see anything interesting in any of those places.

I guess that many people here would trade places with you.

When we travel, we travel to Third World countries.

[Leovigildo]

So (by your logic), if I moved to New Jersey tomorrow, I'd need to learn Italian?
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Well, if they are the ones that cut the beef, why not?
I love Italian.

[Leovigildo]

I have to get back to Barcelona one day....it really is a great city. Not only that, but if you're bored of Barcelona, you have so much on your doorstep, i.e. the rest of Spain and Europe. I think that Leo & I should trade places....
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You find all those places interesting because you don't live here. We are tired of all those places. After seeing 400 Cathedrals, 500 monumental towns, eating in 400 fake regional restaurants and eternally fleeing from Sunday Drivers and tourists -that destroy everything, there's nothing interesting in this overpopulated part of the world. Museums you say...man, we live in a Museum...we are pieces of a museum.

[Leovigildo]

So you got what you wanted from your politicialns in Miami. Dirty 1980's money, and illiterate, radical, Anti American third world behaviors including REFUSAL to even act like they're in the USA. Not to mention the "infighting" drama of which Hispanic group is "smarter, whiter, more educated, more lazy or not, has more Euro blood, worthy" and all the nonsense that goes on in that demographic.

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Believe me, if Greeks would ever control a large city in the US, they would behave exactly like Cubans.
They would be speaking modern Greek and Classical Greek.
By the way, I love everything Greek, but a Greek can't be an Anglo. I find that preposterous, you are the cradle of civilization, why do you choose barbardom?.
Of course, nobody talks to you in English in Miami, you are Greek.

[Leovigildo]

Yet why is it that no other group of people (Chinese, Italian, French, Haitian, whatever) try to force their language on everyone else? See, that's the problem I have with a lot of people in Miami.
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Hispanics don't force you to speak Spanish.
But Spaniards do. There're 300 Spanish Companies in South Florida and those companies want fully bilingual people since Miami lodges their headquarters of their Latin American operations.
So is the case with every European, Asian, American or Latin American corporation there.
You should complain to them.
You should complain to all the franchises that require Spanish.

[psouth]

They don't learn English because they don't have to. They went one step further. They are making Americans learn and speak their language instead. Mighty nice of them don't you think?

[Leovigildo]

Complain to BIG COMPANIES.
The Business of America is Business.
If Business wants Spanish, that's it.

[EnjoyTheSilence]

Originally Posted by Leovigildo

If I were him, I'd be exploring Barcelona, taking hundreds of shots of all that wonderful Gaudi architecture, or enjoying a walk on Las Ramblas. And if I got bored of that, I'd take a train to Madrid or Valencia, or I'd cross the border to Southern France and the Pyrenees Mountains, which are practically on his doorstep by US standards

But hey...I'm bored here in Miami, so I have an excuse for posting a lot.

Leo, do you want to trade places?
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I hate Gaudi, Ramblas are a dangerous place. I've been to those places that you mention 100 times. I don't see anything interesting in any of those places.

I guess that many people here would trade places with you.

When we travel, we travel to Third World countries.

Leo,

Every city in the world has dangerous parts, including Barcelona and Miami. The point I was trying to make is that I wouldn't be bored there. The Gaudi architecture is just one aspect of what I felt to be a very genuinely vibrant city and you have plenty of things on your doorstep that I'd love to have, i.e. scenery, wine growing areas, beautiful coastline and historical towns and cities. If that's not your thing, perhaps you'd be happier in Miami, hence the fact that I suggested trading places.

Nowhere on earth is anywhere near perfect, but it's all about finding the right match.

[Leovigildo]

Ache

Yes, I watched "Balseros".
I was in Cuba at that time, I saw the rafters sailing from everywhere.
The documentary is filmed by the Catalan TV.
But there has been a shift, now the situation is different.

[Leovigildo]

BCreass

After a certain time, you'd end up tired of making pics, tired of visiting wine cellars, cathedrals, overpopulated coastlines, tired of having to deal with the same stupidities of frogs (I'm sorry), etc, etc.

Gaudi, man, we hate Gaudi and we laugh our arse off when we see a "Tourist Bus" of Japanese taking pictures of La Pedrera or "La Sagrada Familia", that big alien ship. There are no people of Barcelona in Las Ramblas, only tourist, crooks, African whores, maroccan hashis and coke peddlers. Restaurants? Now you must shell 100 euros to eat in a decent restaurant.

Since the city became heavely touristic, after the Olimpics of 92, the city lost most of its attraction, the city was kidnapped by tourists. Of course, there are places quite intact, but few...

But before 1992 the city was dirty, familiar, no hotels, almost no tourist, but marvelous.

Spain was a magnificent place 30 years ago, when we were poor.